[Vtigercrm-developers] Fwd: Re: Search in columns of a list of records

Vic Cekvenich vic.cvc at gmx.com
Sun Aug 17 16:55:34 GMT 2014



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Subject: 	Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Search in columns of a list of records
Date: 	Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:19:15 +0700
From: 	Ian Stern <i4629193 at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
To: 	vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com



The worst is that effort of community members is transferred to vtiger 
commercial version. I watching many track bugs and improvements like 
change logic in operating in lists, enhancements to  related lists, 
workflows for documents etc. If this improvements will not be included 
in oncoming version I leaving vtiger and joining fork to vtiger 6 which 
is about to incorporate. I would stress guys from vtiger that they will 
loose a lot not making equal open source and their on-demand version. It 
is coming from marketing knowledge and experience. You can get more 
interest from the bank leaving there more money. This rule applies to 
vtiger team and open source perfectly.



On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Pabiszczak, Błażej 
<b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:

    If Vtiger will continue to ignore the community, we will stop to speak.


    Z poważaniem / Regards
    Błażej Pabiszczak
    M: +48.884999123
    E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>


    2014-04-25 1:16 GMT+02:00 Manuel Fernando <ptdesigner at gmail.com
    <mailto:ptdesigner at gmail.com>>:

        Hello, Jonathan SARDO

        I have to say that you was right about problems not being fixed
        even after lots of reports.

        Do you guys know that last source os vtiger 6 its not possible
        to complete the install?
        I report that a few weeka ago and still no answer or fix.

        The report ignored:
        http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7994
        Same about the impossibility to recover password here:
        http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8002
        Another basic bug related to the installation fileld last name
        "Administrator"
        http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/7974

        Do you vtiger team think that this is not important to correct?
        I think its a big mistake not to fix quickly those basic bugs.

        Its a shame, not correct things that will allow people to test
        and report bugs.

        Best regards



        No dia 01/03/2014, às 04:44, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com
        <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>> escreveu:

>         Hope you noticed, our next development branch commits are
>         pushed to 6.1.0
>         <http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/>.
>
>         Regards,
>         Prasad
>
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>
>         On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Manuel Fernando
>         <ptdesigner at gmail.com <mailto:ptdesigner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Yes, they did some bad moves.
>
>             Moves that maybe weren’t recommended to do at this time of
>             the stability of vTiger6.
>             With this they are creating a separation of the community.
>
>             But i still believe it’s all related to money and time.
>             If they make money they can improve tiger with new
>             functionalities “higher level” - (less time for community)
>             Because they don’t have time, it´s impossible to separate
>             version paid from version free, so, the easiest way is to
>             remove functionalities from the free version.
>
>             Maybe they shouldn’t released community vtiger6 before
>             they have the paid version at level 7. And then they could
>             provide a community vtiger6 very stable.
>             Do you agree with me?
>
>             Regards
>
>             Manuel
>
>             No dia 28/02/2014, às 22:52, Jonathan Sardo
>             <sardoj at gmail.com <mailto:sardoj at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
>>             I am agree with you,
>>
>>             Business is business. It is normal to offer in $ version
>>             more modules (even if it is possible to earn money
>>             differently thanks to a Marketplace - like Prestashop).
>>             There are a lot of ways to earn money with Open Source
>>             solution, but the first point is to federate the community.
>>
>>             And I am agree that a lot of people use this mailing list
>>             only to speak about problems but almost never to give
>>             concrete solutions to improve the system.
>>
>>             I like very much Vtiger 6.0.0. It is a very good solution
>>             and I hope I would be able to contribute again with other
>>             Open Source modules.
>>             But I think it is not good for the brand image to not fix
>>             bugs already fixed in the $ version.
>>
>>             Regards,
>>
>>             Jonathan SARDO
>>
>>             Tél. 06 99 45 50 47
>>
>>
>>             2014-02-28 23:18 GMT+01:00 Manuel Fernando
>>             <ptdesigner at gmail.com <mailto:ptdesigner at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>                 Ok,
>>
>>                 i understand that as well but in my point of view,
>>                 sorry but business is business.
>>                 If you provide a free service to your clientes,
>>                 doesn’t mean that you have to offer ill
>>                 funcionalities otherwise
>>                 they don’t need to buy other or the same complete
>>                 service from you.
>>
>>                 Sorry if i was misunderstood about what i said. I
>>                 meant in my previous post for the group of people
>>                 that don’t even bother to read some and learn how
>>                 tiger works.
>>                 They just want to download and make money providing
>>                 their clients vtiger.
>>
>>                 I know some of you are very evolved and contribute a
>>                 lot for this project and do great things for all.
>>                 By the way, Thanks for ModuleDesigner.
>>
>>                 Manuel
>>
>>
>>                 No dia 28/02/2014, às 18:02, Jonathan Sardo
>>                 <sardoj at gmail.com <mailto:sardoj at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>>
>>>                 Manuel,
>>>
>>>                 You're right. But why the Open Source Version is
>>>                 different than the $ version?
>>>                 Why several bugs are fixed in the $ version and not
>>>                 in the Open Source version?
>>>                 Why it is not possible to make pull requests to
>>>                 improve Vtiger?
>>>                 Why it does not exist a real Vtiger community?
>>>                 ....
>>>
>>>                 It is very great to offer a Open Source solution
>>>                 (thank you very much Vtiger team), but I think we
>>>                 have all to play the game in this sense.
>>>
>>>                 Regards,
>>>
>>>                 Jonathan SARDO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                 2014-02-28 16:42 GMT+01:00 Manuel Fernando
>>>                 <ptdesigner at gmail.com <mailto:ptdesigner at gmail.com>>:
>>>
>>>                     Take your time guys.
>>>
>>>                     I don’t understand why people are complaining about.
>>>                     Vtiger as a lot of potential and before tiger
>>>                     v5.4 get’s 5.4 it passed from all versions before.
>>>
>>>                     Do you guys complain about release datas and etc
>>>                     just think this:
>>>
>>>                     Do you know ios7 for apple?
>>>                     do you think io7 came out perfect?
>>>                     do you think nest release iOS 7.1 will be perfect?
>>>                     Do they give estimate datas about bugs fix?
>>>
>>>                     No no no no and you all still love apple
>>>                     products, don´t you. I love at least as vTiger
>>>
>>>                     Congratulations vTiger Team
>>>
>>>                     Bustercom
>>>
>>>
>>>                     No dia 28/02/2014, às 15:29, Sreenivas Kanumuru
>>>                     <svk at vtiger.com <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>>                     Hi Mariusz,
>>>>
>>>>                     6.1 should be released by July, if things go
>>>>                     per plan.
>>>>
>>>>                     Regards,
>>>>                     Sreenivas
>>>>
>>>>                     --
>>>>                     Sreenivas Kanumuru
>>>>                     vtiger Team
>>>>
>>>>                     Direct: +91 96323-55656 <tel:%2B91%2096323-55656>
>>>>                     Skype: skanumuru
>>>>
>>>>                     *Connect with us on: *Twitter
>>>>                     <http://twitter.com/#%21/vtigercrm> *I*
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>>>>                     *Forums <http://forums.vtiger.com/>*I* Website
>>>>                     <http://vtiger.com/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                     On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Siam
>>>>                     Translations LLP <info at siam-translations.com
>>>>                     <mailto:info at siam-translations.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                         I hope when all trac issues will be closed
>>>>                         - fixed :-)
>>>>                         Guys said Q3 or Q4... so it could be xmas too
>>>>
>>>>                         AS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         On 2014-02-28 21:04, Mariusz Krzaczkowski
>>>>                         wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                             Hi
>>>>
>>>>                             When version 6.1 will be released?
>>>>
>>>>                             Z POWAŻANIEM / BEST REGARDS
>>>>                             MARIUSZ KRZACZKOWSKI
>>>>
>>>>                             m.krzaczkowski at opensaas.pl
>>>>                             <mailto:m.krzaczkowski at opensaas.pl>
>>>>                             www.OpenSaaS.pl
>>>>                             <http://www.opensaas.pl/> [7]
>>>>
>>>>                                 ---------- Wiadomość przekazana
>>>>                                 dalej ----------
>>>>                                 From: Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>>
>>>>                                 To: "vtigercrm-developers at __lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>"
>>>>                                 <vtigercrm-developers at lists.__vtigercrm.com
>>>>                                 <mailto:vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>>
>>>>                                 Cc:
>>>>                                 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 13:02:26 +0530
>>>>                                 Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers]
>>>>                                 Search in columns of a list of
>>>>                                 records
>>>>                                 Yes - hopefully in 6.1.0 version.
>>>>                                 Regards,
>>>>                                 Prasad
>>>>                                 CONNECT WITH US ON: Twitter
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>>>>
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