[Vtigercrm-developers] app open source
Alan Bell
alan.bell at libertus.co.uk
Thu May 5 11:14:02 GMT 2016
On 05/05/16 11:51, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
> Hi Alan
>
> So you say that all those features will be implemented in the CRM
> itself with Responsive template?
I am saying that HTML 5 web applications can do all of those features.
>
> I know all those can be done through a web application. But I feel the
> vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.
>
> What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser versus
> mobile app
>
yeah, there isn't one. You can make a native thing slow, you can make a
web thing fast, there is no inherent reason why one should be
dramatically faster than the other.
> How about usability compare to native elements versus web elements
can be done
http://demos.jquerymobile.com/1.4.5/
> In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of mobile
> and backend(CRM).
>
> (Example, customer portal)
>
> Front-end complexity is another factor when all features sitting in
> the same app. We have to consider multi browser support here.
>
I don't really fancy having to test every custom module for supporting
an iOS client in swift and an Android thing in java and an Ubuntu client
in QML. Yes, you could write a native client that just talks the web
services API to vtiger, but it is going to be a complete pain to build
and maintain.
> I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to mobile app
> to CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to satisfy basic needs.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk
> <mailto:alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 05/05/16 05:05, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> HTML5 responsive templates means just using vtiger directly in
>> browser? If so we will loose the power of mobile features, such
>> as push notifications,
> not necessarily, there are notifications
> https://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/
> and platform specific push notifications through various means.
> You could also use something like telegram as a messaging platform.
>> camera
> nope, that should work fine with getusermedia
> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/getusermedia/intro/
>> and voice.
> huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but I am not
> sure of the application for it.
>>
>> We have used those in different apps such as barcode scanner or
>> delayed notifications
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>
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>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hills - Technologywise
>> <richard at tw.co.nz <mailto:richard at tw.co.nz>> wrote:
>>
>> Just my two cents, definitely no time to contribute in a big
>> way currently but... I have to say that I don't see the point
>> in apps any more for accessing websites. I would much rather
>> see a good responsive template developed possibly using html
>> 5 to allow some work to be done without a connection, though
>> this is also not really that useful in todays perma-connected
>> world.
>>
>> Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger across a
>> wider range of devices would be brilliant.
>>
>> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:02:58PM +0530, Sutharsan
>> Jeganathan wrote:
>>
>> Hi Simone & Alan
>>
>> The community app is essential. I have few concerns
>> choosing the
>> development platform
>>
>> 1. Native
>> 2. Non-native (Cordova)
>>
>> We are currently working with Cordova usign Ionic
>> framework + Angular.
>> Non-native means, it is developed using pure HTML5, CSS +
>> Javascript
>>
>> Examples
>>
>> 1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)
>> 2. PhoneGap (Javascript enough)
>> 3. React-native (an included native compiler)
>>
>> Advantages
>>
>> 1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native elements,
>> such as IOs Tabs
>> and freedom of system calls
>> 2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript can
>> contribute. Cross
>> platform development is easier (Ios and Android only
>> warranted)
>>
>> Looking forward your comments
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com
>> <mailto:simonetravaglini at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> yes I agree
>>
>> 2016-05-04 12:40 GMT+02:00 Alan Bell
>> <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk
>> <mailto:alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>>:
>>
>> to be clear, you are talking about a mobile thing
>> for phones and tablets?
>> Personally I think that the way forward is a
>> really really good fluid
>> layout HTML5 interface, including offline
>> ability, which would work cross
>> platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>
>> On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all,
>> I think app for open source version is a need for
>> most of us.
>> So I want ask:
>> 1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be
>> relased or if you plan to
>> relase closed app and when
>> 2 - to community: if there is an interest in a
>> large collaboration of
>> community to create an open source app project.
>> Could be an opportunity to
>> make community live and share effort to a common
>> goal.
>>
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