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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/05/16 11:51, Sutharsan Jeganathan
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So you say that all those features will be implemented in the
CRM itself with Responsive template?<br>
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I am saying that HTML 5 web applications can do all of those
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<p>I know all those can be done through a web application. But I
feel the vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.</p>
<p>What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser
versus mobile app<br>
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yeah, there isn't one. You can make a native thing slow, you can
make a web thing fast, there is no inherent reason why one should be
dramatically faster than the other.<br>
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can be done<br>
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<p>In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of
mobile and backend(CRM).</p>
<p>(Example, customer portal)<br>
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<p> Front-end complexity is another factor when all features
sitting in the same app. We have to consider multi browser
support here.<br>
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I don't really fancy having to test every custom module for
supporting an iOS client in swift and an Android thing in java and
an Ubuntu client in QML. Yes, you could write a native client that
just talks the web services API to vtiger, but it is going to be a
complete pain to build and maintain.<br>
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<p>I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to
mobile app to CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to
satisfy basic needs.<br>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Sutharsan Jeganathan<br>
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HTML5 responsive templates means just using
vtiger directly in browser? If so we will loose
the power of mobile features, such as push
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not necessarily, there are notifications<br>
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and platform specific push notifications through various
means. You could also use something like telegram as a
messaging platform.<br>
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nope, that should work fine with getusermedia <a
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<div>and voice.<br>
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huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but
I am not sure of the application for it.<br>
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We have used those in different apps such as
barcode scanner or delayed notifications<br>
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my two cents, definitely no time to contribute in
a big way currently but... I have to say that I
don't see the point in apps any more for accessing
websites. I would much rather see a good
responsive template developed possibly using html
5 to allow some work to be done without a
connection, though this is also not really that
useful in todays perma-connected world.<br>
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Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger
across a wider range of devices would be
brilliant.<br>
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Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Simone & Alan<br>
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The community app is essential. I have few
concerns choosing the<br>
development platform<br>
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1. Native<br>
2. Non-native (Cordova)<br>
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We are currently working with Cordova usign
Ionic framework + Angular.<br>
Non-native means, it is developed using pure
HTML5, CSS + Javascript<br>
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Examples<br>
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1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)<br>
2. PhoneGap (Javascript enough)<br>
3. React-native (an included native compiler)<br>
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Advantages<br>
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1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native
elements, such as IOs Tabs<br>
and freedom of system calls<br>
2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript
can contribute. Cross<br>
platform development is easier (Ios and
Android only warranted)<br>
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Looking forward your comments<br>
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Thanks<br>
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> to be clear,
you are talking about a mobile thing for
phones and tablets?<br>
Personally I think that the way forward is a
really really good fluid<br>
layout HTML5 interface, including offline
ability, which would work cross<br>
platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.<br>
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Alan.<br>
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On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:<br>
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Hi to all,<br>
I think app for open source version is a
need for most of us.<br>
So I want ask:<br>
1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be
relased or if you plan to<br>
relase closed app and when<br>
2 - to community: if there is an interest in
a large collaboration of<br>
community to create an open source app
project. Could be an opportunity to<br>
make community live and share effort to a
common goal.<br>
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