[Vtigercrm-developers] app open source

Thu May 5 11:15:51 GMT 2016

I don't know technically what is the best solution, but I think we have to
focus on customer (user) perspective. UX have to drive us in choise. I
think that use a CRM in desktop and in Mobile have big difference. So I
think that a responsive template is a good solution (we give MYC template
to all our customers!) but app could be an important improvement if done in
the right way. App is not only for data consultation (in this case
responsive is enought I think), but think about order entry, or other flow
that are tipical of mobile use. App could give a better UX to vendors, or
support team.
So my proposal is to discuss first of all what are the main task an flow to
manage in mobility?
Then for technically resolution I want to hear more expert opinion!

2016-05-05 12:51 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:

> Hi Alan
>
> So you say that all those features will be implemented in the CRM itself
> with Responsive template?
>
> I know all those can be done through a web application. But I feel the
> vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.
>
> What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser versus mobile
> app
> How about usability compare to native elements versus web elements
>
> In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of mobile and
> backend(CRM).
>
> (Example, customer portal)
>
>   Front-end complexity is another factor when all features sitting in the
> same app. We have to consider multi browser support here.
>
> I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to mobile app to
> CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to satisfy basic needs.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 05/05/16 05:05, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> HTML5 responsive templates means just using vtiger directly in browser?
>> If so we will loose the power of mobile features, such as push
>> notifications,
>>
>> not necessarily, there are notifications
>> https://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/
>> and platform specific push notifications through various means. You could
>> also use something like telegram as a messaging platform.
>>
>> camera
>>
>> nope, that should work fine with getusermedia
>> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/getusermedia/intro/
>>
>> and voice.
>>
>> huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but I am not sure
>> of the application for it.
>>
>>
>> We have used those in different apps such as barcode scanner or delayed
>> notifications
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>
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>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hills - Technologywise <
>> <richard at tw.co.nz>richard at tw.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>>> Just my two cents, definitely no time to contribute in a big way
>>> currently but... I have to say that I don't see the point in apps any more
>>> for accessing websites. I would much rather see a good responsive template
>>> developed possibly using html 5 to allow some work to be done without a
>>> connection, though this is also not really that useful in todays
>>> perma-connected world.
>>>
>>> Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger across a wider range
>>> of devices would be brilliant.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:02:58PM +0530, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Simone & Alan
>>>>
>>>> The community app is essential. I have few concerns choosing the
>>>> development platform
>>>>
>>>>   1. Native
>>>>   2. Non-native (Cordova)
>>>>
>>>> We are currently working with Cordova usign Ionic framework + Angular.
>>>> Non-native means, it is developed using pure HTML5, CSS + Javascript
>>>>
>>>> Examples
>>>>
>>>>   1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)
>>>>   2. PhoneGap (Javascript enough)
>>>>   3. React-native (an included native compiler)
>>>>
>>>> Advantages
>>>>
>>>>   1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native elements, such as IOs Tabs
>>>>   and freedom of system calls
>>>>   2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript can contribute.  Cross
>>>>   platform development is easier (Ios and Android only warranted)
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward your comments
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>
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>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>>>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yes I agree
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-05-04 12:40 GMT+02:00 Alan Bell < <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
>>>>> alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>:
>>>>>
>>>>> to be clear, you are talking about a mobile thing for phones and
>>>>>> tablets?
>>>>>> Personally I think that the way forward is a really really good fluid
>>>>>> layout HTML5 interface, including offline ability, which would work
>>>>>> cross
>>>>>> platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>> I think app for open source version is a need for most of us.
>>>>>> So I want ask:
>>>>>> 1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be relased or if you plan to
>>>>>> relase closed app and when
>>>>>> 2 - to community: if there is an interest in a large collaboration of
>>>>>> community to create an open source app project. Could be an
>>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>>> make community live and share effort to a common goal.
>>>>>>
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