[Vtigercrm-developers] Roadmap 6.5 and 7

Wed Apr 27 00:35:50 GMT 2016

Fork it out, cancel this crap shop and create list of developers who
offering trustworthy extensions. Feeding vtiger guys in this case is too
much. They want only money....
Look at this yetiforce.... (however I don like Blazej with all my heart)
guys did exceptional work without sneaking any sick ideas. Only link to
their online store (poor indeed so far)
Vtiger WILL NOT  make it better in the way we all expecting, as they are
too greedy. Whatever they do it has second bottom - money.
Sure they have right to earn, but riding on this pseudo open source in the
way they do, make me (and I guess some of you) feel rapped.

FORK IT OUT
Amen

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Ranieri <rslemer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do not know if the model is wrong, but needs some adjustments in my
> opinion
>
> 1) Remove basic functionality of the system core and turn into paid
> plugins makes no sense.
>
> 2) Price of add ons. If you have a funcionallidade US 25, US 50 is
> reasonable, because for a reasonably functional core version is necessary
> today 5 to 10 add ons. But Add Ons US 200, US 400 make it impossible,
> imagine a 10 add ons package would cost US 4000!
>
> Example functional WebMail, EUR 199, EUR 400 or check duplicates, format
> fields for EUR 99, too expensive ( for me, at  Brazil .. )
>
> 3) Having to license the modules with each new version. Hard to imagine
> you license the module in version 6.4, a month later leaves a hits package
> just like 6.5 and you have to license all over again?
>
> I take as an example the Apple app store for Macbook, you have updates to
> the operating system for US $ 40, other free
>
> I think the core team Vtiger could charge US $ 49 for a new updated core,
> for example, why not?
>
> The community could provide add ons without cost or equals values.
>
> So the wheel turns, everyone wins and is accessible to most companies.
>
> Note that in Brazil, only the conversion of the exchange, makes the values
> are multiply for 4 and more taxes.
>
> Ranieri
>
> 2016-04-26 6:15 GMT-03:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> We are about to join into community contribution by adding our recent
>> change vtiger ACL (Separation of Create/Edit).
>>
>> I am having plans to contribute several other features.
>>
>> I am interested to listen the forking plans & ideas
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Stacey Johnson <
>> stacey.johnson110 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > That's because open source means not only free code, but also a live
>>> community
>>>
>>> Well.... it couldn't be better described. IN regards to forking, there
>>> is one, where a lot has been done, just the CEO needs
>>> a bit adjustment :o)  if he promise to respect community voices (without
>>> pointing out who pay, who did more.. etc.... ) it could
>>> lead to exceptional collaboration and application.
>>> If not.......... I would love to see fork run by joint Alan's (both),
>>> Joe & Andrea, Simone, Manuel, Conrado and few more from this list - in
>>> friendly and honest collaboration
>>> which will respect "free code and community".
>>> Money is important, it feeds our families, but if everybody turn into
>>> money making machines only (without precious habit of giving a bit of
>>> our-self for free) , the crime and bestiality will take over whole world.
>>> If you love your loved ones, the flowers comes for free he..? Or you
>>> just promise you buy it in the future?
>>>
>>> Stacey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi to all people of community,
>>>> nice to see that discussion of future of open source is a focus topic
>>>> in our list.
>>>> We are an italian company that invested a lot in past years on vtiger,
>>>> and from 2016 we are official solution provider.
>>>> We love the product, but we are very worried about how community is
>>>> managed and the lack of new functionality in open source version.
>>>> I think if Vtiger team doesn't change direction, a new fork could be
>>>> close. That's becouse open source means not only free code, but also a live
>>>> community. And a  big part of active comunity could organize itselfe for a
>>>> fork.
>>>> We see in last month some good change from Vtiger team, but it's only a
>>>> first step. Now we need it starts running in the way of open source.
>>>> We are ready to collaborate with ideas and code. Image if everyone of
>>>> this community give 10% of code developed. I agree on this with Blazej: we
>>>> could have a complete solution with lot of functionality that could compete
>>>> with commercial solution.
>>>> It's also important to know roadmap: not only date of realase, but also
>>>> what feature will be included in Vtiger 7!
>>>>
>>>> We are here to collaborate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-04-26 6:44 GMT+02:00 Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason we moved to git was to improve collaboration. We will
>>>>> review all the merge requests and issues submitted on code.vtiger.com.
>>>>> We are working towards a 6.5 release in June,  followed by Vtiger 7 preview
>>>>> in September (for developers only). Vtiger 7 GA will be in Q4.
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you,
>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Manuel Fernando <ptdesigner at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And note that some very good merge requests were committed like some
>>>>>> weeks ago encryption password but they are not finished or not working.
>>>>>> (password is sent as md5 to customer portal and you can only log with
>>>>>> hash password even if you change password in customer portal)
>>>>>> But my intention here is not get in too much details.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @preexo i think you left the impression that you could contribute
>>>>>> more in improve tiger for new php and you did some merge requests and tiger
>>>>>> team should help you at least say something about your intention. (maybe
>>>>>> they don’t want you to improve that part of vtiger) I hope i’m wrong in
>>>>>> this matter and most probably i am but this is how they are making people
>>>>>> feel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @Vtiger Team don’t take me wrong asking this.
>>>>>> This is a fair question and a question that all should ask:
>>>>>> You want community improvements and suggestions or not?
>>>>>> And if not, we should give you some space, and follow your project or
>>>>>> not but at least you should stand for a position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can contribute a lot more (well, start contribute because i have a
>>>>>> lot of homework already made) but is very frustrating to see how bug fixes
>>>>>> and improvements are being treated.
>>>>>> This should work quite simple - suggest something, you accept on not,
>>>>>> close and we can go to the next step.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > No dia 25/04/2016, às 11:34, Preexo <preexo at googlemail.com>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I was more than happy this morning to see that Prasad went through
>>>>>> the pull
>>>>>> > requests and merged quite a bunch!
>>>>>> > But when I went through them I noticed it was only the really easy
>>>>>> ones,
>>>>>> > honestly... It's a good start, I am very happy that some very good
>>>>>> bug fixes
>>>>>> > and improvements made it into 6.5 that way, but they are still not
>>>>>> > introducing any bigger changes...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Back-porting their on demand code to the open source version must
>>>>>> be a pain
>>>>>> > in the *** later.
>>>>>> > I am actually hoping/expecting someone comes up with a new fork
>>>>>> once (and a
>>>>>> > friendly mindset, sorry but Yetiforce has already disqualified
>>>>>> itself by
>>>>>> > this) once vtiger 7 is being released. Maybe one of the big
>>>>>> extension
>>>>>> > vendors? It would make sense to me.
>>>>>> > Then again, maybe vtiger changes and starts actually contributing a
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> > more time towards the open source than just the necessary minimum
>>>>>> to keep
>>>>>> > the facade alive...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Still we are here, playing their game ;)
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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