[Vtigercrm-developers] YetiForce 0.0.2

Mon Oct 13 09:28:12 GMT 2014

Marketplace was right choise, we want stable core features and possibility
to choise best extension for any costumer.

2014-10-13 11:14 GMT+02:00 Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>:

> Blazej,
>
> * It's not enough to create a new module, but it has to be consistent and
>> work with other processes so if we create functions together, we can
>> achieve more than if each of us does it separately.*
>
>
> I beg to differ. We believe no one company is going to create a CRM
> application that meets many different business needs. Salesforce.com
> AppExchange is a testimony to that. It has thousands of extensions. We are
> in the API age. Zapier.com shows completely independent applications can be
> wired together fairly easily. We have already gotten an early look at what
> Vtiger platform APIs are enabling with extensions that are currently listed
> on the marketplace.
>
> We remain committed to extending the APIs and making development on Vtiger
> easier. There is a lot more to come.
>
> Regards,
> Sreenivas
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>
>> Sreenivas
>>
>>
>> I saw your modules in the marketplace but, in my opinion, the idea of
>> marketplace itself is wrong. I will give you some explanation why I think
>> so:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. You offer paid modules in it, which in your opinion, should be a part
>> of the system (for free), PDF modules and backups are good examples. It's a
>> mistake to charge for language pack versions, it's harmful for the
>> community and its development.
>>
>> 2. Your limitations connected to modification of the system files are
>> unacceptable for us, in particular, the fact that you do not give us access
>> to your SVN (modification). This way we would never spread our wings
>> because we would work only on 50% of the possibilities.
>>
>> 3. The publication of 60 modules in our shop would take us months if not
>> years. We don't have so much time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Except the 3 above points you have to understand the most important
>> thing. CRM is not modules, it's the philosophy. It's not enough to create a
>> new module, but it has to be consistent and work with other processes so if
>> we create functions together, we can achieve more than if each of us does
>> it separately.
>>
>>
>>
>> During the past year I spent hundreds of hours analyzing and optimizing
>> the processes of our customers. YetiForce doesn't only distinguish itself
>> from others because of its modules, but what is even more significant is
>> the correlation of all elements into the single and complete process and we
>> are only getting started.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regarding the publication of our modules at yours, it is impossible
>> because:
>>
>> · Our functions are based on a modified engine (we would have to develop
>> two different module versions), we added hundreds of improvements to the
>> system but they cannot be seen at first glance.
>>
>> · You can move some of the modules by yourself (e.g. Language Editor,
>> Search Setup, Custom Views etc.), the license allows it so it's all in your
>> hands.
>>
>> · We develop our own fork, so focusing on two different versions only
>> limits us. VtigerCRM is our source and we take what is the best in it, so
>> we suggest you to do the same.
>>
>>
>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>> M: +48.884999123
>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>
>> 2014-10-12 19:30 GMT+02:00 Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>:
>>
>>> Blazej,
>>>
>>> I am following upS on Jan's question. We would love to see some of the
>>> Yetiforce modules in Vtiger marketplace. Are you interested in working with
>>> us to get these listed on on Vtiger marketplace? We are working with
>>> developers to make the extensions safe for installation on Vtiger open
>>> source before listing on marketplace. Already, six 3rd party extensions
>>> <http://t.signauxdix.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs3MqtYqN1pwYhxQBqNjW653gwx56dTslf8ZypTW02?t=https%3A%2F%2Fmarketplace.vtiger.com%2Fapp%2Flistings&si=5693842808897536&pi=cd1cefe2-b6bd-4175-aa0b-1e7dc3becc17>
>>> have been approved in the first 4 weeks since its release in September
>>> (excluding language packs).
>>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> About forks, if we did not want people to fork from Vtiger, we would
>>> have chosen a GPL license, not Mozilla license. We don't pretend that
>>> Vtiger will meet the needs of all users. We are happy to see others build
>>> on top of Vtiger.
>>>
>>> Coming to the lessons, we do keep learning every day, not just in the
>>> past 6 months. With every version we try to make Vtiger more easier to
>>> develop on. Version 6.0, with complete new UI framework, made it easy to
>>> create new layouts, and made it easy to add themes, and made the framework
>>> more easier to work with. Version 6.1, with Extensions store, helps
>>> developers distribute apps easily to client. Obviously, we also released
>>> many features with these versions.
>>>
>>> Still, Vtiger will not have all the features out of box. But, we hope to
>>> see the marketplace grow to have many different modules and extensions
>>> serving needs of different users.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sreenivas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Jan Pisula <janpawelpisula at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Congratulations Błażej, great work!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have tested Yeti and it looks stable, your modyfication is that what
>>>> vtiger need.
>>>>
>>>> How community can cooperate in development of this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Jan Pisula
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [
>>>> mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> <vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com>] *On Behalf Of *Pabiszczak,
>>>> Błażej
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 11:20 PM
>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> *Subject:* [Vtigercrm-developers] YetiForce 0.0.2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We update https://sourceforge.net/projects/yetiforce/
>>>>
>>>> A list of changes we will publish on Monday (80 revisions)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have fun
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>
>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>
>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>
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