[Vtigercrm-developers] YetiForce 0.0.2

Mon Oct 13 09:14:10 GMT 2014

Blazej,

* It's not enough to create a new module, but it has to be consistent and
> work with other processes so if we create functions together, we can
> achieve more than if each of us does it separately.*

I beg to differ. We believe no one company is going to create a CRM
application that meets many different business needs. Salesforce.com
AppExchange is a testimony to that. It has thousands of extensions. We are
in the API age. Zapier.com shows completely independent applications can be
wired together fairly easily. We have already gotten an early look at what
Vtiger platform APIs are enabling with extensions that are currently listed
on the marketplace.

We remain committed to extending the APIs and making development on Vtiger
easier. There is a lot more to come.

Regards,
Sreenivas

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:

> Sreenivas
>
>
> I saw your modules in the marketplace but, in my opinion, the idea of
> marketplace itself is wrong. I will give you some explanation why I think
> so:
>
>
>
> 1. You offer paid modules in it, which in your opinion, should be a part
> of the system (for free), PDF modules and backups are good examples. It's a
> mistake to charge for language pack versions, it's harmful for the
> community and its development.
>
> 2. Your limitations connected to modification of the system files are
> unacceptable for us, in particular, the fact that you do not give us access
> to your SVN (modification). This way we would never spread our wings
> because we would work only on 50% of the possibilities.
>
> 3. The publication of 60 modules in our shop would take us months if not
> years. We don't have so much time.
>
>
>
> Except the 3 above points you have to understand the most important thing.
> CRM is not modules, it's the philosophy. It's not enough to create a new
> module, but it has to be consistent and work with other processes so if we
> create functions together, we can achieve more than if each of us does it
> separately.
>
>
>
> During the past year I spent hundreds of hours analyzing and optimizing
> the processes of our customers. YetiForce doesn't only distinguish itself
> from others because of its modules, but what is even more significant is
> the correlation of all elements into the single and complete process and we
> are only getting started.
>
>
>
> Regarding the publication of our modules at yours, it is impossible
> because:
>
> · Our functions are based on a modified engine (we would have to develop
> two different module versions), we added hundreds of improvements to the
> system but they cannot be seen at first glance.
>
> · You can move some of the modules by yourself (e.g. Language Editor,
> Search Setup, Custom Views etc.), the license allows it so it's all in your
> hands.
>
> · We develop our own fork, so focusing on two different versions only
> limits us. VtigerCRM is our source and we take what is the best in it, so
> we suggest you to do the same.
>
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
> 2014-10-12 19:30 GMT+02:00 Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>:
>
>> Blazej,
>>
>> I am following upS on Jan's question. We would love to see some of the
>> Yetiforce modules in Vtiger marketplace. Are you interested in working with
>> us to get these listed on on Vtiger marketplace? We are working with
>> developers to make the extensions safe for installation on Vtiger open
>> source before listing on marketplace. Already, six 3rd party extensions
>> <http://t.signauxdix.com/e1t/c/5/f18dQhb0S7lC8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9nMJW7t5XZs3MqtYqN1pwYhxQBqNjW653gwx56dTslf8ZypTW02?t=https%3A%2F%2Fmarketplace.vtiger.com%2Fapp%2Flistings&si=5693842808897536&pi=cd1cefe2-b6bd-4175-aa0b-1e7dc3becc17>
>> have been approved in the first 4 weeks since its release in September
>> (excluding language packs).
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>> About forks, if we did not want people to fork from Vtiger, we would have
>> chosen a GPL license, not Mozilla license. We don't pretend that Vtiger
>> will meet the needs of all users. We are happy to see others build on top
>> of Vtiger.
>>
>> Coming to the lessons, we do keep learning every day, not just in the
>> past 6 months. With every version we try to make Vtiger more easier to
>> develop on. Version 6.0, with complete new UI framework, made it easy to
>> create new layouts, and made it easy to add themes, and made the framework
>> more easier to work with. Version 6.1, with Extensions store, helps
>> developers distribute apps easily to client. Obviously, we also released
>> many features with these versions.
>>
>> Still, Vtiger will not have all the features out of box. But, we hope to
>> see the marketplace grow to have many different modules and extensions
>> serving needs of different users.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sreenivas
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Jan Pisula <janpawelpisula at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulations Błażej, great work!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have tested Yeti and it looks stable, your modyfication is that what
>>> vtiger need.
>>>
>>> How community can cooperate in development of this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Jan Pisula
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [
>>> mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> <vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com>] *On Behalf Of *Pabiszczak,
>>> Błażej
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 11:20 PM
>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>> *Subject:* [Vtigercrm-developers] YetiForce 0.0.2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We update https://sourceforge.net/projects/yetiforce/
>>>
>>> A list of changes we will publish on Monday (80 revisions)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have fun
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>
>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>
>>> M: +48.884999123
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>
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