[Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-developers Digest, Vol 100, Issue 122
Pabiszczak, Błażej
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
Thu May 22 18:27:31 GMT 2014
Please check your license file (License_linux.txt): points:
- MagpieRSS
- phpSysinfo
- Mailfeed
- NOCC scripts
&
- libraries\tcpdf\fonts\freefont\README
- Hu lang in ckeditor
Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
2014-05-22 11:37 GMT+02:00 <vtigercrm-developers-request at lists.vtigercrm.com
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> 1. Re: Licensing issues with GPL (was sharing realworld test)
> (Prasad)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 15:07:01 +0530
> From: Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>
> To: "vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com"
> <vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Licensing issues with GPL (was
> sharing realworld test)
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> Please update - http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8068
>
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> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> > If GPL owner doesn't grant liberty over license - we have less option
> than
> > to drop it.
> > I assume your lang-pack is less restrictive - please clarify.
> >
> > We will move to less-restrictive libraries and then be more selective
> > with integration + licensing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Prasad
> >
> > *Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm> *I*
> Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall>
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> http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page>
> > *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> > b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> 1.
> >>
> http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc(and
> >> releated files)
> >> 2. FreeFont use GPL
> >> 3. Our Lang Pack have GPL.
> >> 4. etc.
> >>
> >> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >> M: +48.884999123
> >> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-05-22 10:37 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
> >>
> >>> Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and, thus, it is not in conflict. In
> >>> that case I would say that the only GPL library present is AjaxLoader
> >>> (qqUploader) in MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of
> that
> >>> dependency.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, vtiger already uses other libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of
> >>> them, it is incorrect. The thing is that unless you hit onto something
> like
> >>> facebook, nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold mine,
> >>> somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep trying to
> make
> >>> a living...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first module have GPL license,
> >>> other tools dont use roudcube (other licenses). Vtiger use many
> libraries
> >>> like TCPDF on GNU licenses.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>> M: +48.884999123
> >>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to change the license
> >>>> on the whole product and make it GPL. In fact that is what may be
> happening
> >>>> to your own integrated roundcube extension....
> >>>>
> >>>> Another option would be that vtiger changed the license to support
> dual
> >>>> licensing, then, with a LOT of care and conditions, you could have
> both
> >>>> together. It is a REALLY tricky thing and I think vtiger does
> correctly in
> >>>> staying away from the problems, albeit the inconveniences....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 22/05/14 09:24, Matteo Baranzoni wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think GPL it's not compatible with VPL....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
> >>>> :
> >>>>
> >>>>> And what is the problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2014-05-22 4:42 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> RoundCube is under GPL License which is strict to grow OpenSource.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Prasad
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>> *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> >>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Poorly you did, that you wrote your own email client. Why did not
> >>>>>>> you use roundcube?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2014-05-21 6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> B?a?ej,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Contributions welcome.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm> *I*
> >>>>>>>> Facebook<
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> http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page>
> >>>>>>>> *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> >>>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The problem is that you do not use the mail module, so you do not
> >>>>>>>>> know how it works.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>>>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2014-05-20 16:12 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Bastiaan,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you for sharing the feedback - its always different to
> >>>>>>>>>> think like customer than developer.
> >>>>>>>>>> UX plays a vital role and one of the key reasons why Vtiger 6
> >>>>>>>>>> Platform was built for.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We will continue to improve usability.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> *Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm>
> *I*
> >>>>>>>>>> Facebook<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall>
> >>>>>>>>>> *I* Blog <https://blogs.vtiger.com/>* I* Wiki<
> http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page>
> >>>>>>>>>> *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Zebra Hosting <
> >>>>>>>>>> support at zebrahosting.eu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just sharing a little test I did with secretary who is doing
> >>>>>>>>>>> some customer contact and never worked with a CRM.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I asked her to open the mail manager and answer emails like
> >>>>>>>>>>> she normally does. (IMAP connected)
> >>>>>>>>>>> First thing she tried was open en email and looking for ways
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> move it to a folder (not possible in open mail)
> >>>>>>>>>>> Then closed the mail, tried to drag it over to a folder (drag
> >>>>>>>>>>> and drop not supported)
> >>>>>>>>>>> Then saw that she first have to click the checkbox, open a drop
> >>>>>>>>>>> down and select a folder.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3 steps and she gave up and went back to her mail client.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Doesn?t work when you do hundreds of mails a day.
> >>>>>>>>>>> People get used to modern GUI?s with HTML5, might be time to
> >>>>>>>>>>> think about if for the next version.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So yes, it is sometimes good, not to think like a developer
> >>>>>>>>>>> but just see normal user working to learn about your GUI?..
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bastiaan Houtkooper
> >>>>>>>>>>> Zebra Hosting
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Un saludo
> >>> Joe
> >>> TSolucio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Un saludo
> >>> Joe
> >>> TSolucio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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