[Vtigercrm-developers] vtigercrm-developers Digest, Vol 100, Issue 121
Pabiszczak, Błażej
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
Thu May 22 14:21:25 GMT 2014
We change license on VPL.
Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
2014-05-22 11:32 GMT+02:00 <vtigercrm-developers-request at lists.vtigercrm.com
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> 1. Re: Licensing issues with GPL (was sharing realworld test)
> (Prasad)
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> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 15:02:12 +0530
> From: Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>
> To: "vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com"
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> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Licensing issues with GPL (was
> sharing realworld test)
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> If GPL owner doesn't grant liberty over license - we have less option than
> to drop it.
> I assume your lang-pack is less restrictive - please clarify.
>
> We will move to less-restrictive libraries and then be more selective with
> integration + licensing.
>
> Regards,
> Prasad
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> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1.
> >
> http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc(and
> > releated files)
> > 2. FreeFont use GPL
> > 3. Our Lang Pack have GPL.
> > 4. etc.
> >
> > Z powa?aniem / Regards
> > B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> > M: +48.884999123
> > E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >
> >
> > 2014-05-22 10:37 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
> >
> >> Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and, thus, it is not in conflict. In
> >> that case I would say that the only GPL library present is AjaxLoader
> >> (qqUploader) in MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of
> that
> >> dependency.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes, vtiger already uses other libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of
> >> them, it is incorrect. The thing is that unless you hit onto something
> like
> >> facebook, nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold mine,
> >> somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep trying to
> make
> >> a living...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej wrote:
> >>
> >> We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first module have GPL license,
> >> other tools dont use roudcube (other licenses). Vtiger use many
> libraries
> >> like TCPDF on GNU licenses.
> >>
> >>
> >> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >> M: +48.884999123
> >> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
> >>
> >>> Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to change the license
> >>> on the whole product and make it GPL. In fact that is what may be
> happening
> >>> to your own integrated roundcube extension....
> >>>
> >>> Another option would be that vtiger changed the license to support dual
> >>> licensing, then, with a LOT of care and conditions, you could have both
> >>> together. It is a REALLY tricky thing and I think vtiger does
> correctly in
> >>> staying away from the problems, albeit the inconveniences....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 22/05/14 09:24, Matteo Baranzoni wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think GPL it's not compatible with VPL....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >:
> >>>
> >>>> And what is the problem?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2014-05-22 4:42 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>>> RoundCube is under GPL License which is strict to grow OpenSource.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Prasad
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> >>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Poorly you did, that you wrote your own email client. Why did not
> you
> >>>>>> use roundcube?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2014-05-21 6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> B?a?ej,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Contributions welcome.
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>> Facebook<
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> >>>>>>> *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pabiszczak, B?a?ej <
> >>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The problem is that you do not use the mail module, so you do not
> >>>>>>>> know how it works.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Z powa?aniem / Regards
> >>>>>>>> B?a?ej Pabiszczak
> >>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
> >>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2014-05-20 16:12 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Bastiaan,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you for sharing the feedback - its always different to
> >>>>>>>>> think like customer than developer.
> >>>>>>>>> UX plays a vital role and one of the key reasons why Vtiger 6
> >>>>>>>>> Platform was built for.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We will continue to improve usability.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> *Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm>
> *I*
> >>>>>>>>> Facebook<
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall>
> >>>>>>>>> *I* Blog <https://blogs.vtiger.com/>* I* Wiki<
> http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page>
> >>>>>>>>> *I *Forums <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<
> https://www.vtiger.com/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Zebra Hosting <
> >>>>>>>>> support at zebrahosting.eu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Just sharing a little test I did with secretary who is doing
> >>>>>>>>>> some customer contact and never worked with a CRM.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I asked her to open the mail manager and answer emails like she
> >>>>>>>>>> normally does. (IMAP connected)
> >>>>>>>>>> First thing she tried was open en email and looking for ways to
> >>>>>>>>>> move it to a folder (not possible in open mail)
> >>>>>>>>>> Then closed the mail, tried to drag it over to a folder (drag
> and
> >>>>>>>>>> drop not supported)
> >>>>>>>>>> Then saw that she first have to click the checkbox, open a drop
> >>>>>>>>>> down and select a folder.
> >>>>>>>>>> 3 steps and she gave up and went back to her mail client.
> Doesn?t
> >>>>>>>>>> work when you do hundreds of mails a day.
> >>>>>>>>>> People get used to modern GUI?s with HTML5, might be time to
> >>>>>>>>>> think about if for the next version.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So yes, it is sometimes good, not to think like a developer but
> >>>>>>>>>> just see normal user working to learn about your GUI?..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Bastiaan Houtkooper
> >>>>>>>>>> Zebra Hosting
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >> --
> >> Un saludo
> >> Joe
> >> TSolucio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Un saludo
> >> Joe
> >> TSolucio
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> http://www.vtiger.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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