<div dir="ltr">Please update - <a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8068">http://trac.vtiger.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/ticket/8068</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><b>Connect with us on: </b><a href="http://twitter.com/vtigercrm" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Twitter</a> <b>I</b> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Facebook</a> <b>I</b> <a href="https://blogs.vtiger.com/" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Blog</a><b> I</b> <a href="http://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Main_Page" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Wiki</a> <b>I </b><a href="https://discussions.vtiger.com" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Forums </a><b>I</b> <a href="https://www.vtiger.com/" style="color:rgb(0,0,204)" target="_blank">Website</a></span></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Prasad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">If GPL owner doesn't grant liberty over license - we have less option than to drop it.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I assume your lang-pack is less restrictive - please clarify.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">We will move to less-restrictive libraries and</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> then be more selective with integration + licensing.</span></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Regards,</span><br></div><div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Prasad</span></div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><ol><li><a href="http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc" target="_blank">http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc</a> (and releated files)</li>
<li>FreeFont use GPL </li><li>Our Lang Pack have GPL.</li><li>etc.</li></ol><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: +48.884999123<br>E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-22 10:37 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and,
thus, it is not in conflict. In that case I would say that the
only GPL library present is AjaxLoader (qqUploader) in
MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of that
dependency.<br>
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On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:<br>
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<div>Yes, vtiger already uses other
libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of them, it is incorrect. The
thing is that unless you hit onto something like facebook,
nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold mine,
somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep
trying to make a living...<br>
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On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, Błażej wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first
module have GPL license, other tools dont use roudcube (other
licenses). Vtiger use many libraries like TCPDF on GNU
licenses. </div>
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<div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
<div>M: +48.884999123<br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to
change the license on the whole product and make it
GPL. In fact that is what may be happening to your own
integrated roundcube extension....<br>
<br>
Another option would be that vtiger changed the
license to support dual licensing, then, with a LOT of
care and conditions, you could have both together. It
is a REALLY tricky thing and I think vtiger does
correctly in staying away from the problems, albeit
the inconveniences....<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think GPL it's not compatible with
VPL....</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00
Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">And what is the problem?<br>
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<div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
<div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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GMT+02:00 Prasad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">RoundCube is under GPL
License which is strict to grow
OpenSource.
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Prasad</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May
21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak,
Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Poorly you did,
that you wrote your own email
client. Why did not you use
roundcube?<br>
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<div>Z poważaniem /
Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
<div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-21
6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, May 20, 2014
at 11:42 PM,
Pabiszczak, Błażej
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The
problem is
that you do
not use the
mail module,
so you do not
know how it
works.<br>
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<div>Z
poważaniem /
Regards</div>
<div>Błażej
Pabiszczak</div>
<div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-20
16:12
GMT+02:00
Prasad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com" target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.44444465637207px">Bastiaan,</span><br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.44444465637207px">Thank
you for
sharing the
feedback - its
always
different to
think like
customer than
developer.</span></div>
<div> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.44444465637207px">UX
plays a vital
role and one
of the key
reasons why
Vtiger 6
Platform was
built for.</span></div>
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<div><font color="#000000" face="Calibri,
sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.44444465637207px">We will continue to improve
usability. </span></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, May 20,
2014 at 7:20
PM, Zebra
Hosting <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:support@zebrahosting.eu" target="_blank">support@zebrahosting.eu</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Just
sharing a
little test I
did with
secretary who
is doing some
customer
contact and
never worked
with a CRM.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I asked
her to open
the mail
manager and
answer emails
like she
normally does.
(IMAP
connected)</div>
<div>First
thing she
tried was open
en email and
looking for
ways to move
it to a folder
(not possible
in open mail)</div>
<div>Then
closed the
mail, tried to
drag it over
to a folder
(drag and drop
not supported)</div>
<div>Then saw
that she first
have to click
the checkbox,
open a drop
down and
select a
folder. </div>
<div>3 steps
and she gave
up and went
back to her
mail client.
Doesn’t work
when you do
hundreds of
mails a day.</div>
<div>People
get used to
modern GUI’s
with HTML5,
might be time
to think about
if for the
next version.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So yes,
it is
sometimes
good, not to
think like a
developer but
just see
normal user
working to
learn about
your GUI…..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Bastiaan
Houtkooper</div>
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<div>Zebra
Hosting</div>
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