[Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour

Tue Jun 24 09:44:07 GMT 2014

Sreenivas, Hi..

Will be the marketplace available in  the on-demand version?

Thanks,
Conrado

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com> wrote:

> We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app stores, and
> trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the revenue we generate from the app
> store (25% of the app fee) is good, then that means developers will be lot
> happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.
>
> The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations require some system
> file changes, which makes the extension non-compliant. That is something we
> are working to address this and see more extensions listed. However, we
> will not be able to solve this in 1 version.
>
> Regards,
> Sreenivas
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> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP <
> info at siam-translations.com> wrote:
>
>> If clumsy user will mess system than developers should be able to help
>> him. I suggest to create directory of qualified devs next to app store.
>> On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate revenue - just
>> limiting existing functions could be controversial
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>>
>> We considered keeping the 'install from file' option in the UI, but felt
>> it could lead to users installing unverified extensions that
>> might damage the installation. We wanted to add one level of difficulty
>> for installing such extensions to ensure that
>> users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan if the command line
>> tool becomes difficult for users to use.
>>
>> Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is that developers will
>> not be able to protect their
>> extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php files and tie it to
>> specific MAC address )
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sreenivas
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> *We expect that in the same way it will be solved.*
>>>
>>>
>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>> M: +48.884999123
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István <holbok at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>  Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>>>>
>>>> There are several good examples how to organize module install manager.
>>>> Please look at the Joomla! project solutions:
>>>>
>>>> <joomla-vtiger.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This approach can be utilized by the vtiger project also.
>>>> In the Joomla! project you can find a method to
>>>> - install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger store)
>>>> - install from package (this method was used in earlier vtiger
>>>> version), the package can be placed in a directory or in a URL
>>>>
>>>> and there is a method to install extension by Discover.
>>>>
>>>> For the vtiger - counting future demands - would be very useful:
>>>>
>>>>    - possibility to install from vtiger store
>>>>    - possibility to install from package
>>>>    - possibility to install by bootstrap string (for developing using
>>>>    vtlib API)
>>>>    - or possibility to install by CLI
>>>>
>>>> And should be there a possibility to Update all earlier installed
>>>> extensions.
>>>>
>>>> I do not suggest to close any earlier used possibility to install
>>>> extensions into vtiger.
>>>> By my opinion the install from store possibility should be an extra
>>>> over the earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>>>>
>>>> Kindest regards:
>>>> Istvan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> üdvözlettel:
>>>>
>>>> *Holbok István*
>>>>
>>>> +3670-342-0900
>>>> *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
>>>> *SkyPe:* holboki
>>>>
>>>>  2014.06.23. 10:29 keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs to reduce the need to
>>>> modify system files. We understand that is important for the success of the
>>>> Store.
>>>>
>>>>  Blazej,
>>>>
>>>>  *If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we are
>>>>> forced to create our own fork.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Console (command line tool) will allow the installation of such
>>>> modules that are not listed on the store. It is a complementary tool that
>>>> will be useful for developers and users who want to install extensions that
>>>> are not yet published on the store. In essence, there are 2 ways to install
>>>> extensions. first through the store (certainly more easier), and the other
>>>> is through the Console. If we are finding that users are having difficulty
>>>> with the Console, then we will try to provide a UI for the console (that is
>>>> separate from the store).
>>>>
>>>>  Andrew,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> *I understand that after migration from 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules will
>>>>> not be migrated but i have to install 'em manually. It means that database
>>>>> tables will be untouched. Is it correct?*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1 will leave custom modules
>>>> untouched. They will need to be updated manually through the Store
>>>> (possible only if the name matche) , or from outside the store  (through
>>>> the Console).
>>>>
>>>>   *Can I claim one extension to be published - email campaigns? Vtiger
>>>>> really need it to make marketing guys happy and stick to one app only. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for the suggestion. We are discussing internally on the On
>>>> Demand features we can release to open source and support well. I expect we
>>>> will be releasing a couple of extensions initially (Quickbooks, Magento
>>>> connectors for example) and add more over time.
>>>>
>>>>  Regards,
>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo Baranzoni <
>>>> info at greenbitweb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think that not allow modifyng system files in extensione store
>>>>> was the only possible solution but vtiger needs to improve to ensure that
>>>>> they are not necessary!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>> >:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Even if we publish an extension, we will list similar extensions
>>>>>>> published by other developers, as long as they meet the guidelines (*not
>>>>>>> modifying system files*).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we are
>>>>>> forced to create our own fork.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
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