[Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour

Sreenivas Kanumuru svk at vtiger.com
Tue Jun 24 17:56:22 GMT 2014


Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances as well.

On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado <comaggi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sreenivas, Hi..
>
> Will be the marketplace available in  the on-demand version?
>
> Thanks,
> Conrado
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app stores, and
>> trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the revenue we generate from the app
>> store (25% of the app fee) is good, then that means developers will be lot
>> happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.
>>
>> The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations require some system
>> file changes, which makes the extension non-compliant. That is something we
>> are working to address this and see more extensions listed. However, we
>> will not be able to solve this in 1 version.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sreenivas
>>
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>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP <
>> info at siam-translations.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If clumsy user will mess system than developers should be able to help
>>> him. I suggest to create directory of qualified devs next to app store.
>>> On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate revenue - just
>>> limiting existing functions could be controversial
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>>>
>>> We considered keeping the 'install from file' option in the UI, but felt
>>> it could lead to users installing unverified extensions that
>>> might damage the installation. We wanted to add one level of difficulty
>>> for installing such extensions to ensure that
>>> users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan if the command
>>> line tool becomes difficult for users to use.
>>>
>>> Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is that developers
>>> will not be able to protect their
>>> extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php files and tie it to
>>> specific MAC address )
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sreenivas
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *We expect that in the same way it will be solved.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István <holbok at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>  Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>>>>>
>>>>> There are several good examples how to organize module install
>>>>> manager. Please look at the Joomla! project solutions:
>>>>>
>>>>> <joomla-vtiger.png>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This approach can be utilized by the vtiger project also.
>>>>> In the Joomla! project you can find a method to
>>>>> - install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger store)
>>>>> - install from package (this method was used in earlier vtiger
>>>>> version), the package can be placed in a directory or in a URL
>>>>>
>>>>> and there is a method to install extension by Discover.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the vtiger - counting future demands - would be very useful:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - possibility to install from vtiger store
>>>>>    - possibility to install from package
>>>>>    - possibility to install by bootstrap string (for developing using
>>>>>    vtlib API)
>>>>>    - or possibility to install by CLI
>>>>>
>>>>> And should be there a possibility to Update all earlier installed
>>>>> extensions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not suggest to close any earlier used possibility to install
>>>>> extensions into vtiger.
>>>>> By my opinion the install from store possibility should be an extra
>>>>> over the earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindest regards:
>>>>> Istvan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> üdvözlettel:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Holbok István*
>>>>>
>>>>> +3670-342-0900
>>>>> *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
>>>>> *SkyPe:* holboki
>>>>>
>>>>>  2014.06.23. 10:29 keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs to reduce the need to
>>>>> modify system files. We understand that is important for the success of the
>>>>> Store.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Blazej,
>>>>>
>>>>>  *If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we are
>>>>>> forced to create our own fork.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Console (command line tool) will allow the installation of such
>>>>> modules that are not listed on the store. It is a complementary tool that
>>>>> will be useful for developers and users who want to install extensions that
>>>>> are not yet published on the store. In essence, there are 2 ways to install
>>>>> extensions. first through the store (certainly more easier), and the other
>>>>> is through the Console. If we are finding that users are having difficulty
>>>>> with the Console, then we will try to provide a UI for the console (that is
>>>>> separate from the store).
>>>>>
>>>>>  Andrew,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *I understand that after migration from 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules
>>>>>> will not be migrated but i have to install 'em manually. It means that
>>>>>> database tables will be untouched. Is it correct?*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1 will leave custom modules
>>>>> untouched. They will need to be updated manually through the Store
>>>>> (possible only if the name matche) , or from outside the store  (through
>>>>> the Console).
>>>>>
>>>>>   *Can I claim one extension to be published - email campaigns?
>>>>>> Vtiger really need it to make marketing guys happy and stick to one app
>>>>>> only. *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks for the suggestion. We are discussing internally on the On
>>>>> Demand features we can release to open source and support well. I expect we
>>>>> will be releasing a couple of extensions initially (Quickbooks, Magento
>>>>> connectors for example) and add more over time.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo Baranzoni <
>>>>> info at greenbitweb.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that not allow modifyng system files in extensione store
>>>>>> was the only possible solution but vtiger needs to improve to ensure that
>>>>>> they are not necessary!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Even if we publish an extension, we will list similar extensions
>>>>>>>> published by other developers, as long as they meet the guidelines
>>>>>>>> (*not modifying system files*).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we
>>>>>>> are forced to create our own fork.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>
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