[Vtigercrm-developers] Fwd: Re: New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour
Vic Cekvenich
vic.cvc at gmx.com
Sun Aug 17 19:06:15 GMT 2014
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Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:26:21 +0200
From: Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de>
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To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Hy,
This looks great. Additionally if you extend the API Framework in 6.1
multiple times.
Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to
allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big
extensions.
I don't want to bind my customers to hard with the licenses. In my view
of the world, a too hard license agreement will create illegal movements.
I'm a little bit confused, because in preview you have a module
"Colorizer" which looks like my "Colorizer" module.
How could I register for an account in this store? Nothing speaks
against my modules for this store. I think it would fit greatly.
Stefan
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com
<mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:
Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances as
well.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado <comaggi at gmail.com
<mailto:comaggi at gmail.com>> wrote:
Sreenivas, Hi..
Will be the marketplace available in the on-demand version?
Thanks,
Conrado
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru
<svk at vtiger.com <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:
We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app
stores, and trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the
revenue we generate from the app store (25% of the app fee)
is good, then that means developers will be lot happier
(with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.
The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations
require some system file changes, which makes the extension
non-compliant. That is something we are working to address
this and see more extensions listed. However, we will not be
able to solve this in 1 version.
Regards,
Sreenivas
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP
<info at siam-translations.com
<mailto:info at siam-translations.com>> wrote:
If clumsy user will mess system than developers should
be able to help him. I suggest to create directory of
qualified devs next to app store.
On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate
revenue - just limiting existing functions could be
controversial
On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru
<svk at vtiger.com <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:
> Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>
> We considered keeping the 'install from file' option
> in the UI, but felt it could lead to users installing
> unverified extensions that
> might damage the installation. We wanted to add one
> level of difficulty for installing such extensions to
> ensure that
> users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan
> if the command line tool becomes difficult for users
> to use.
>
> Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is
> that developers will not be able to protect their
> extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php
> files and tie it to specific MAC address )
>
> Regards,
> Sreenivas
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej
> <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:
>
> *We expect that in the same way it will be solved.*
>
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>
>
> 2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István
> <holbok at gmail.com <mailto:holbok at gmail.com>>:
>
> Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>
> There are several good examples how to
> organize module install manager. Please look
> at the Joomla! project solutions:
>
> <joomla-vtiger.png>
>
>
> This approach can be utilized by the vtiger
> project also.
> In the Joomla! project you can find a method to
> - install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger
> store)
> - install from package (this method was used
> in earlier vtiger version), the package can be
> placed in a directory or in a URL
>
> and there is a method to install extension by
> Discover.
>
> For the vtiger - counting future demands -
> would be very useful:
>
> * possibility to install from vtiger store
> * possibility to install from package
> * possibility to install by bootstrap string
> (for developing using vtlib API)
> * or possibility to install by CLI
>
> And should be there a possibility to Update
> all earlier installed extensions.
>
> I do not suggest to close any earlier used
> possibility to install extensions into vtiger.
> By my opinion the install from store
> possibility should be an extra over the
> earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>
> Kindest regards:
> Istvan
>
>
> üdvözlettel:
>
> *Holbok István*
>
> +3670-342-0900 <tel:%2B3670-342-0900>
> *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
> <mailto:holbok at gmail.com>
> *SkyPe:* holboki
>
> 2014.06.23. 10 <tel:2014.06.23.%2010>:29
> keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>> Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs
>> to reduce the need to modify system files. We
>> understand that is important for the success
>> of the Store.
>>
>> Blazej,
>>
>> /If you will not publish modules that
>> modifying system files, we are forced to
>> create our own fork./
>>
>>
>> Console (command line tool) will allow the
>> installation of such modules that are not
>> listed on the store. It is a complementary
>> tool that will be useful for developers and
>> users who want to install extensions that are
>> not yet published on the store. In essence,
>> there are 2 ways to install extensions. first
>> through the store (certainly more easier),
>> and the other is through the Console. If we
>> are finding that users are having difficulty
>> with the Console, then we will try to provide
>> a UI for the console (that is separate from
>> the store).
>>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> /I understand that after migration from
>> 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules will not be
>> migrated but i have to install 'em manually.
>> It means that database tables will be
>> untouched. Is it correct?/
>>
>>
>> Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1 will
>> leave custom modules untouched. They will
>> need to be updated manually through the Store
>> (possible only if the name matche) , or from
>> outside the store (through the Console).
>>
>> /Can I claim one extension to be
>> published - email campaigns? Vtiger
>> really need it to make marketing guys
>> happy and stick to one app only. /
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. We are discussing
>> internally on the On Demand features we can
>> release to open source and support well. I
>> expect we will be releasing a couple of
>> extensions initially (Quickbooks, Magento
>> connectors for example) and add more over time.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sreenivas
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo
>> Baranzoni <info at greenbitweb.com
>> <mailto:info at greenbitweb.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I think that not allow modifyng system
>> files in extensione store was the only
>> possible solution but vtiger needs to
>> improve to ensure that they are not
>> necessary!
>>
>>
>> 2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak,
>> Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>>:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Even if we publish an extension,
>> we will list similar extensions
>> published by other developers, as
>> long as they meet the guidelines
>> (*_not modifying system files_*).
>>
>>
>> If you will not publish modules that
>> modifying system files, we are forced
>> to create our own fork.
>>
>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>>
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