[Vtigercrm-developers] Fwd: Re: New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour

Vic Cekvenich vic.cvc at gmx.com
Sun Aug 17 19:19:40 GMT 2014



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Subject: 	Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour
Date: 	Thu, 3 Jul 2014 15:21:17 +0200
From: 	socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>
Reply-To: 	vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
To: 	vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com 
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Hi Stefan,

You have some nice modules developed.

Which of them are compatible with vtiger 6 / 6.1?

Thanks!

/ Chr


On 26 June 2014 17:26, Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de 
<mailto:ich at stefanwarnat.de>> wrote:

    Hy,

    This looks great. Additionally if you extend the API Framework in
    6.1 multiple times.
    Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
    installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems
    to allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to
    create big extensions.
    I don't want to bind my customers to hard with the licenses. In my
    view of the world, a too hard license agreement will create illegal
    movements.

    I'm a little bit confused, because in preview you have a module
    "Colorizer" which looks like my "Colorizer" module.
    How could I register for an account in this store? Nothing speaks
    against my modules for this store. I think it would fit greatly.

    Stefan



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    On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com
    <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:

        Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances
        as well.

        On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado
        <comaggi at gmail.com <mailto:comaggi at gmail.com>> wrote:

            Sreenivas, Hi..

            Will be the marketplace available in  the on-demand version?

            Thanks,
            Conrado


            On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru
            <svk at vtiger.com <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:

                We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile
                app stores, and trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If
                the revenue we generate from the app store (25% of the
                app fee) is good, then that means developers will be lot
                happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more
                happier.

                The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations
                require some system file changes, which makes the
                extension non-compliant. That is something we are
                working to address this and see more extensions listed.
                However, we will not be able to solve this in 1 version.

                Regards,
                Sreenivas

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                On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP
                <info at siam-translations.com
                <mailto:info at siam-translations.com>> wrote:

                    If clumsy user will mess system than developers
                    should be able to help him. I suggest to create
                    directory of qualified devs next to app store.
                    On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate
                    revenue - just limiting existing functions could be
                    controversial




                    On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru
                    <svk at vtiger.com <mailto:svk at vtiger.com>> wrote:

>                     Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>
>                     We considered keeping the 'install from file'
>                     option in the UI, but felt it could lead to users
>                     installing unverified extensions that
>                     might damage the installation. We wanted to add
>                     one level of difficulty for installing such
>                     extensions to ensure that
>                     users are aware of the risk. We will review this
>                     plan if the command line tool becomes difficult
>                     for users to use.
>
>                     Note: The one limitation of the command line tool
>                     is that developers will not be able to protect their
>                     extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt
>                     php files and tie it to specific MAC address )
>
>                     Regards,
>                     Sreenivas
>
>
>                     On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak,
>                     Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>                     <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:
>
>                         *We expect that in the same way it will be
>                         solved.*
>
>
>                         Z poważaniem / Regards
>                         Błażej Pabiszczak
>                         M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>                         E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>                         <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>
>
>                         2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István
>                         <holbok at gmail.com <mailto:holbok at gmail.com>>:
>
>                             Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>
>                             There are several good examples how to
>                             organize module install manager. Please
>                             look at the Joomla! project solutions:
>
>                             <joomla-vtiger.png>
>
>
>                             This approach can be utilized by the
>                             vtiger project also.
>                             In the Joomla! project you can find a
>                             method to
>                             - install from the web (e.g. from the
>                             vtiger store)
>                             - install from package (this method was
>                             used in earlier vtiger version), the
>                             package can be placed in a directory or in
>                             a URL
>
>                             and there is a method to install extension
>                             by Discover.
>
>                             For the vtiger - counting future demands -
>                             would be very useful:
>
>                               * possibility to install from vtiger store
>                               * possibility to install from package
>                               * possibility to install by bootstrap
>                                 string (for developing using vtlib API)
>                               * or possibility to install by CLI
>
>                             And should be there a possibility to
>                             Update all earlier installed extensions.
>
>                             I do not suggest to close any earlier used
>                             possibility to install extensions into
>                             vtiger.
>                             By my opinion the install from store
>                             possibility should be an extra over the
>                             earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>
>                             Kindest regards:
>                             Istvan
>
>
>                             üdvözlettel:
>
>                             *Holbok István*
>
>                             +3670-342-0900 <tel:%2B3670-342-0900>
>                             *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:holbok at gmail.com>
>                             *SkyPe:* holboki
>
>                             2014.06.23. 10 <tel:2014.06.23.%2010>:29
>                             keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>>                             Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework
>>                             APIs to reduce the need to modify system
>>                             files. We understand that is important
>>                             for the success of the Store.
>>
>>                             Blazej,
>>
>>                                 /If you will not publish modules that
>>                                 modifying system files, we are forced
>>                                 to create our own fork./
>>
>>
>>                             Console (command line tool) will allow
>>                             the installation of such modules that are
>>                             not listed on the store. It is a
>>                             complementary tool that will be useful
>>                             for developers and users who want to
>>                             install extensions that are not yet
>>                             published on the store. In essence, there
>>                             are 2 ways to install extensions. first
>>                             through the store (certainly more
>>                             easier), and the other is through the
>>                             Console. If we are finding that users are
>>                             having difficulty with the Console, then
>>                             we will try to provide a UI for the
>>                             console (that is separate from the store).
>>
>>                             Andrew,
>>
>>                                 /I understand that after migration
>>                                 from 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules will
>>                                 not be migrated but i have to install
>>                                 'em manually.
>>                                 It means that database tables will be
>>                                 untouched. Is it correct?/
>>
>>
>>                             Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1
>>                             will leave custom modules untouched. They
>>                             will need to be updated manually through
>>                             the Store (possible only if the name
>>                             matche) , or from outside the store
>>                              (through the Console).
>>
>>                                 /Can I claim one extension to be
>>                                 published - email campaigns? Vtiger
>>                                 really need it to make marketing guys
>>                                 happy and stick to one app only. /
>>
>>
>>                             Thanks for the suggestion. We are
>>                             discussing internally on the On Demand
>>                             features we can release to open source
>>                             and support well. I expect we will be
>>                             releasing a couple of extensions
>>                             initially (Quickbooks, Magento connectors
>>                             for example) and add more over time.
>>
>>                             Regards,
>>                             Sreenivas
>>
>>
>>                             On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo
>>                             Baranzoni <info at greenbitweb.com
>>                             <mailto:info at greenbitweb.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                 I think that not allow modifyng
>>                                 system files in extensione store
>>                                 was the only possible solution but
>>                                 vtiger needs to improve to ensure
>>                                 that they are not necessary!
>>
>>
>>                                 2014-06-23 <tel:2014-06-23> 8:31
>>                                 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej
>>                                 <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>                                 <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>>:
>>
>>                                     Hi
>>
>>                                         Even if we publish an
>>                                         extension, we will list
>>                                         similar extensions published
>>                                         by other developers, as long
>>                                         as they meet the guidelines
>>                                         (*_not modifying system files_*).
>>
>>
>>                                     If you will not publish modules
>>                                     that modifying system files, we
>>                                     are forced to create our own fork.
>>
>>                                     Z poważaniem / Regards
>>                                     Błażej Pabiszczak
>>                                     M: +48.884999123
>>                                     <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>>                                     E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>                                     <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
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