[Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised

[Sergio A. Kessler]

1. I don't use IE.

2. most people use IE, so, if something affect IE, it is affecting the
vast mayority of users (no matter how fan I'am of firefox or linux).

3. I don't know if is a must, all I'm saying is that having multiple
scrollbars confuse people, all usability guys say that.


/sak

On 3/4/06, Mike Fedyk <mfedyk at mikefedyk.com> wrote:
> Sergio A. Kessler wrote:
>
> >saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
> >vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
> >
> >I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
> >within a website"...
> >
> >look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
> >
> >see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
> >"page" has been broken...
> >
> >"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
> >since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
> >Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
> >doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
> >way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
> >
> >what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
> >jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
> >http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
> >
> >
> >it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
> >what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
> >rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
> >the graph part (which is not what I want)
> >
> >
> >/sak
> >(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
> >
> >
> I'm sorry but I completely disagree.
>
> Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with
> the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the
> concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.
>
> And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll
> the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of
> IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in
> Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).