[Vtigercrm-developers] LANCER : Home page UI - Revised

Mike Fedyk mfedyk at mikefedyk.com
Fri Mar 3 22:33:05 PST 2006


Sergio A. Kessler wrote:

>saint, if you put a scrollable div, then it means there can be two
>vertical scroll bar, the browser one, and the div one...
>
>I think Brian is refering to the same, he just call this a "website
>within a website"...
>
>look at the following screenshot and you'll know what i'm talking about...
>
>see ? there are two vertical scrollbar... the fundamental concept of a
>"page" has been broken...
>
>"The appearance of multiple pairs of scrollbars affects usability,
>since users are essentially confused as to which scrollbars to use.
>Hiding these scrollbars has the effect of hiding all content that
>doesn't fit into the frame, thus seriously impacts users finding their
>way around a website or finding the content they wanted."
>
>what you are doing is like putting a frame inside the main windows,
>jakob nielsen (*) say this about frames:
>http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9612.html
>
>
>it evens happen to me (a supposedly experienced user), I want to see
>what others type of reports are below "Invoices by Accounts", then I
>rotate my mouse's wheel, only to find (confused) that I'am scrolling
>the graph part (which is not what I want)
>
>
>/sak
>(*) jacob nielsen is considered by many as the # 1 guru of web usability.
>  
>
I'm sorry but I completely disagree.

Having scrollable lists within the page is a must, and it aligns with 
the target of adding more AJAX features into vtiger.  You *lose* the 
concept of the page with AJAX, it is as simple as that.

And if you are talking about how IE and many windows apps don't scroll 
the window below the mouse pointer, then the bad usability is because of 
IE and Windows.  This has been fixed for a long time in Firefox and in 
Gnome (don't know about KDE, but probably there too).



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