[Vtigercrm-developers] An Impassioned Plea froma VTiger Integrator

GIRONNAY Thibault tgironnay at lexsi.com
Thu Jul 20 08:54:15 PDT 2006


Hi all,

 

Matjaz I'll be with you and your team in your enterprise, I agree with your priorities and have one another to add : the security. The organisation sharing privileges for example is indeed totally an illusion. It's too easy too change those settings while not being admin or to see all records even if the privileges are private. I think this is very harmful to offer such buggy features and can discredit Vtiger for the people who have interests in security.

 

Hope we'll have others hands up

 

cabugs

 

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De : vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] De la part de Matjaz.Slak at atol.si
Envoyé : mercredi 19 juillet 2006 16:46
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Objet : Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] An Impassioned Plea froma VTiger Integrator

 


Hi Richie and the rest of the team!

You address me correctly, Matjaz is my name :) 


As I belive the 4.2.x stream is the current "production" vTiger environment for most of the users, my primary goal would be to focus on: 

*	debugging (fixing parts that either don't work at all and/or work incorrectly) 
*	improving usability (based on feedback from users)


I would also like to try and get the following not-quite-features, maybe bugs? implemented/fixed: 

*	multilanguage support (simply get rid of any and all hard-coded strings) 
*	full per user or at least per-system localization support (number format, date format, currency support etc)


These two last items are - in my opinion - somewhere between debugging and new features. vTiger is already supposed to support multiple languages, however this support is not well implemented. The same can be said for localization - vTiger is supposed to be able to support per-user date format, but again there are areas where the implementation is not as good as it could be. 

Also, based on my researches into existing vTiger deployments, I see there are a lot of non-english users, but they probably are using forked code, as due to these two issues they cannot use the "official" 4.2.x stream code. I would like to get these users back on the team, and I know they might return only if we provide them with a 100% localisable product. This will enable them to post the patches they make back to the community or at least give them an opportunity to work with us on resolving them. 

I would try and keep us on this track, rather than go try implement new features and make large changes to UI - the place for these is v5. 


To achieve this, I would first gather any and all contributions currently lying around (in the forum, as provided by other people here etc.) - matching the categories above - and start the process of getting them in the code. I would like to see a show of hands from people that would be prepared to devote some time to debugging/updating tthese contributions - as some might need an update. I know me and my colleagues in our company will. 

If all goes well, we could try and implement a regular timeline (say every month) when we would be releasing point versions. If I get at least two or three people to help, I guess we could have our first result (4.2.5 I guess) in two months. 

I think there will be people using the 4.2.x stream for at least a year after v5 is released, and that if we as a team show them we are supporting them, than they will upgrade to v5 -> if we don't they might start looking elsewhere. 


Thoughts, anyone?


Matjaz Slak
matjaz.slak at atol.si

Atol d.o.o.  |  http://www.atol.si  |  tel. +386 1 510 15 30 



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Hi Matjaz! 
I hope I am addressing you properly if not please forgive me and direct to the proper mode of addressing. 

If you are game then great! 
Welcome to the club. 
Please select your stand-in helper so that at least we have a backup for Linus Matjaz. Let me know and I will grant you the relevant access. 

It would be nice if you could briefly state how you plan to address the 
disparate contributions. This is just to get an idea as there are lots of data floating around in the code contributions and mailing lists; wanted to know if you have any specific plan. I will be busy with the v5 release and will not be able to help you much so the query. 
I was earlier integrating it 1 by 1 till 4.2.3 and we do have a wiki page which reflects the status of the contributions. I am not sure if that is updated till the 4.2.4 release though. http://www.vtiger.com/wiki/index.php/Vtiger_CRM_Code_Contributions 


Allan, any tips from you will be nice. 

Richie




---- Sergio A. Kessler<sergiokessler at gmail.com> wrote ---- 

On 7/14/06, Matjaz.Slak at atol.si <Matjaz.Slak at atol.si> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> If there's no one else, I volunteer to be the v4 Linus.

just do it. ;-)


/sak
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