[Vtigercrm-developers] Discussion about Sidebar in Vtiger 7

Simone Travaglini simonetravaglini at gmail.com
Thu Mar 16 12:25:27 GMT 2017

Hi stefan,
I try to share my opinion from non technical point of view:

1. some add on, like pdf, should be managed as vtiger ondemand do, with a
popup opened after click on a button:
[image: Immagine incorporata 2]

[image: Immagine incorporata 1]

2. on listview I think you can use sidebar on the left

3. other widget I think you can add in summary view, like in the past

About image you share i'm not sure it's a good idea. Maybe a solution is
that under MORE button you have a workflow voice that open a popup that
show you list of WF and button to start them. Or you have an indipendent
button for workflow.
I know that there are some widget on old sidebar that were fast to use, but
Not sure if add a new sidebar, if not in core system, it's a good idea...
Your idea to share with other developer the sidebar is good but not easy to
manage, I think. But I want to hear opinion from other developer.

2017-03-16 12:14 GMT+01:00 Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de>:

> Hy,
> I would like to discuss some topics about the missing sidebar in
> DetailView of Vtiger 7 and how you solve this "problem".
> At first I would do a Pro/Contra list about the sidebar, because I'm not
> fully sure if it is really a bad decision to remove it.
> *PRO*
>    - Missing Sidebar do not require to be loaded on page load, which
>    increase the performance. (I think VT7 have a great performance)
>    - The available place for information is much bigger
>    - Some type of functions are better be placed within something like a
>    sidebar, because it start some processes or do not belong do "informations"
>    - On my 27' screen, the place for information is too big.
>    The left and right column are too far away to have a good clarity. But
>    I could understand on default 20' screens it is better.
> In any way, I need such function to provide the option to trigger
> Processes in DetailView.
> I cannot expect a "default" employee of a company know how to use if I
> hide it behind a button/link.
> And I think for the PDFMaker *@Matus* it is also a must have to get fast
> access to Templates.
> I think we should discuss a solution we share, because any other way would
> result in a big and wild viewport, where every developer apply his
> functions on another place.
> One idea I had but discard, was to show a combined fixed layer bottom
> right or top center within this screen. But it will probably overlay
> information, which is not a solution.
> Another idea I had, was to simple "add" a sidebar by javascript, next to
> the detailview form.
> But to make this looking good, a flexbox supporting browser is required
> and IE < 11 do not support this. (Flexbox is required if it should be a
> responsive solution)
> A test I created is this: http://redoo.click/stefan/Screen03161200371.png
> I think it is looking good.
> But one single developer cannot do this, because it is a wasted space for
> only 1 or 2 modules.
> If we could share a JS Function, DB Table, which do this and check if
> already another module apply this sidebar into the browser, we could
> implement a powerful sidebar. Extensibility by other plugins and Events in
> PHP and JavaScript will assure to make it usable by every dev.
> *@Vtiger Devs*: Why not implement the listview sidebar in this way of
> layout to make a clear separation between list and sidebar. The solution
> you choose to combine both within one container is confusing.
> I'm happy to hear, if such collaboration is possible.
> Regards,
> Stefan
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