[Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej

Thu Oct 16 09:16:06 GMT 2014

Błażej,

Thank you for the post.

I apologize on behalf of rest of members, that made you feel like the
discussion as a war.

You are member of Vtiger Community and would continue to be - not defence
required.

We are always interested in the contributions that would make the framework
much better than what it is.

You are welcome to use the updates that suit best and contribute patches to
us - we appreciate the same.
If there is a strong dependency - we may have to rewrite - hope the license
would allow it.

Please send us the list of vulnerability you would like to share - we will
review and act on them sooner
and devise a patch release if required.

Let me know if I can be of any assistance - I would happy to contribute
what I can.

Regards,
Prasad

*Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm> *I* Facebook
<http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall> *I* Blog
<https://blogs.vtiger.com/>* I* Wiki
<http://wiki.vtiger.com/vtiger6/index.php/Main_Page> *I* Website
<https://www.vtiger.com/>

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:

> I decided to wait for two days to answer your posts. The amount of spam
> that you generated looks impressive, a lot of you sent more posts than I
> did within the last month.
>
> Your attempts to judge me sociologically or to judge my English is a bit
> ridiculous, in particular because anyone who critiques me does not speak
> better than me in my native language. What is more, most of the
> fault-finders did nothing for Vtiger's community and only someone who does
> nothing is infallible.
>
> I'm not going to continue this discussion. I'd like to thank those who
> defended us. I wouldn't suppose that there will be so many of you.
>
> YetiForce will draw from Vtiger's engine as much as it can and it won't
> change. I understand that Vtiger doesn't want to do it and is not
> interested in our modules although they are needed by the community. I also
> understand that errors found in SQL ljection and XSS are not of Vtiger's
> interest and there is no point in sending them.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
> 2014-10-16 9:48 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
>
>> This thread seem to having no end.
>>
>> We respect all the views and feedback and would like to have
>> discussions centered on Vtiger in this mailing list that
>> would serve as all members.
>>
>> Let us know if this is not realistic to follow -
>> we can discuss the difference off the list.
>>
>> Thanks for understanding.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vtiger Team
>>
>>
>> *Connect with us on: *Twitter <http://twitter.com/vtigercrm> *I* Facebook
>> <http://www.facebook.com/pages/vtiger/226866697333578?sk=wall> *I* Blog
>> <https://blogs.vtiger.com/>* I* Wiki
>> <http://wiki.vtiger.com/vtiger6/index.php/Main_Page> *I* Website
>> <https://www.vtiger.com/>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM, PlaymaN Tepes <sshhocckk at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually you are who dont know that Vtiger came from Sugar.
>>>
>>> Are we talking this in the sugarCRM developerList in a thread dedicated
>>> to vTiger fork, or are we discussing this in a vTiger developer List?
>>>
>>> 2014-10-15 18:43 GMT+02:00 Doug <sailsfast at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> You clearly don't know that Vtiger came from Sugar.
>>>> On Oct 15, 2014 1:05 AM, "Hamono, Chris (DPC)" <Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So why not sign up to the yeti mailing list? You can be on both lists.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blazej’s posts have been welcomed, but be honest the only reason he is
>>>>> doing it is for advertising. His complaints and antics are nothing more
>>>>> than self-promotion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> For me it is a very negative approach. It doesn’t impress me at all
>>>>> and makes me think negatively about his approach. I cannot afford to invest
>>>>> time and money into a developer who shows a lack of maturity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may have noted from my other posts I don’t necessarily agree
>>>>> with the way the vtiger devs are handling the release cycle of vtiger. But
>>>>> I also don’t think straight out attacks are going to help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
>>>>> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Stacey
>>>>> Johnson
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 October 2014 3:01 PM
>>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also would like to see here his posts. Its is good way for vtiger
>>>>> developer and others to learn about different and more complex solutions so
>>>>> they can source ideas. I think we should be grateful to Blazej. Please note
>>>>> that he not removing information of where yetiforce coming from (see footer
>>>>> of his fork) in the same time SugarCRM is erased from vtiger ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Stacey
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Hamono, Chris (DPC) <
>>>>> Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Then sign up to yeti’s mailing list. It’s the proper thing to do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It’s a sign of the openness of the vtiger devs that this barrage of
>>>>> insults has been allowed to go on. It is distracting and does not assist in
>>>>> any way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
>>>>> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 October 2014 11:20 AM
>>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I disagree and enjoy hearing about the yetti updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 14, 2014 6:12 PM, "Hamono, Chris (DPC)" <Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As a user of vtiger I am glad to see you have created a fork. Another
>>>>> potential solution to our problems. I am reviewing your fork.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But please keep this in mind. In a few months or maybe a year or so If
>>>>> your product still exists it will be very different from vtiger.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So why are you spamming the vtiger forum with your personal gripes?
>>>>> Why are you letting emotion get the better of you. I understand your
>>>>> frustration.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have often thought I would like to fork this project and get it on
>>>>> the right track. But common sense tells me I am better trying to work with
>>>>> the vtiger devs and help them create a better product.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please start your own mailing list. Once you have done so I am sure
>>>>> many people will contribute to your product. Until then please respect the
>>>>> vtiger team. It is their product after all and they can do what they like
>>>>> with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.vtiger.com/
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/attachments/20141016/c4d24489/attachment-0001.html>