[Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej

Thu Oct 16 08:04:26 GMT 2014

I decided to wait for two days to answer your posts. The amount of spam
that you generated looks impressive, a lot of you sent more posts than I
did within the last month.

Your attempts to judge me sociologically or to judge my English is a bit
ridiculous, in particular because anyone who critiques me does not speak
better than me in my native language. What is more, most of the
fault-finders did nothing for Vtiger's community and only someone who does
nothing is infallible.

I'm not going to continue this discussion. I'd like to thank those who
defended us. I wouldn't suppose that there will be so many of you.

YetiForce will draw from Vtiger's engine as much as it can and it won't
change. I understand that Vtiger doesn't want to do it and is not
interested in our modules although they are needed by the community. I also
understand that errors found in SQL ljection and XSS are not of Vtiger's
interest and there is no point in sending them.

Have a nice day.

Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl

2014-10-16 9:48 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:

> This thread seem to having no end.
>
> We respect all the views and feedback and would like to have
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> would serve as all members.
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> Let us know if this is not realistic to follow -
> we can discuss the difference off the list.
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> Thanks for understanding.
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:29 PM, PlaymaN Tepes <sshhocckk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually you are who dont know that Vtiger came from Sugar.
>>
>> Are we talking this in the sugarCRM developerList in a thread dedicated
>> to vTiger fork, or are we discussing this in a vTiger developer List?
>>
>> 2014-10-15 18:43 GMT+02:00 Doug <sailsfast at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> You clearly don't know that Vtiger came from Sugar.
>>> On Oct 15, 2014 1:05 AM, "Hamono, Chris (DPC)" <Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So why not sign up to the yeti mailing list? You can be on both lists.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blazej’s posts have been welcomed, but be honest the only reason he is
>>>> doing it is for advertising. His complaints and antics are nothing more
>>>> than self-promotion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me it is a very negative approach. It doesn’t impress me at all and
>>>> makes me think negatively about his approach. I cannot afford to invest
>>>> time and money into a developer who shows a lack of maturity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you may have noted from my other posts I don’t necessarily agree
>>>> with the way the vtiger devs are handling the release cycle of vtiger. But
>>>> I also don’t think straight out attacks are going to help.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
>>>> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Stacey
>>>> Johnson
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 October 2014 3:01 PM
>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also would like to see here his posts. Its is good way for vtiger
>>>> developer and others to learn about different and more complex solutions so
>>>> they can source ideas. I think we should be grateful to Blazej. Please note
>>>> that he not removing information of where yetiforce coming from (see footer
>>>> of his fork) in the same time SugarCRM is erased from vtiger ...
>>>>
>>>> Stacey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Hamono, Chris (DPC) <
>>>> Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Then sign up to yeti’s mailing list. It’s the proper thing to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It’s a sign of the openness of the vtiger devs that this barrage of
>>>> insults has been allowed to go on. It is distracting and does not assist in
>>>> any way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
>>>> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] *On Behalf Of *Doug
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 15 October 2014 11:20 AM
>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Dear Blazej
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree and enjoy hearing about the yetti updates.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2014 6:12 PM, "Hamono, Chris (DPC)" <Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As a user of vtiger I am glad to see you have created a fork. Another
>>>> potential solution to our problems. I am reviewing your fork.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But please keep this in mind. In a few months or maybe a year or so If
>>>> your product still exists it will be very different from vtiger.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So why are you spamming the vtiger forum with your personal gripes? Why
>>>> are you letting emotion get the better of you. I understand your
>>>> frustration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have often thought I would like to fork this project and get it on
>>>> the right track. But common sense tells me I am better trying to work with
>>>> the vtiger devs and help them create a better product.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please start your own mailing list. Once you have done so I am sure
>>>> many people will contribute to your product. Until then please respect the
>>>> vtiger team. It is their product after all and they can do what they like
>>>> with it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
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