[Vtigercrm-developers] Licensing issues with GPL (was sharing realworld test)

Thu May 22 08:54:06 GMT 2014

   1.
   http://trac.vtiger.com/svn/vtiger/vtigercrm/branches/6.1.0/libraries/magpierss/rss_cache.inc
(and
   releated files)
   2. FreeFont use GPL
   3. Our Lang Pack have GPL.
   4. etc.

Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl

2014-05-22 10:37 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:

>  Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and, thus, it is not in conflict. In
> that case I would say that the only GPL library present is AjaxLoader
> (qqUploader) in MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of that
> dependency.
>
>
>
> On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:
>
> Yes, vtiger already uses other libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of them,
> it is incorrect. The thing is that unless you hit onto something like
> facebook, nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold mine,
> somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep trying to make
> a living...
>
>
>
> On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, Błażej wrote:
>
> We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first module have GPL license,
> other tools dont use roudcube (other licenses). Vtiger use many libraries
> like TCPDF on GNU licenses.
>
>
>  Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
>
> 2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
>
>>  Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to change the license on
>> the whole product and make it GPL. In fact that is what may be happening to
>> your own integrated roundcube extension....
>>
>> Another option would be that vtiger changed the license to support dual
>> licensing, then, with a LOT of care and conditions, you could have both
>> together. It is a REALLY tricky thing and I think vtiger does correctly in
>> staying away from the problems, albeit the inconveniences....
>>
>>
>> On 22/05/14 09:24, Matteo Baranzoni wrote:
>>
>> I think GPL it's not compatible with VPL....
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>:
>>
>>> And what is the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>> M: +48.884999123
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>
>>>
>>>  2014-05-22 4:42 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
>>>
>>>>  RoundCube is under GPL License which is strict to grow OpenSource.
>>>>
>>>>  Regards,
>>>> Prasad
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Poorly you did, that you wrote your own email client. Why did not you
>>>>> use roundcube?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  2014-05-21 6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Błażej,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Contributions welcome.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is that you do not use the mail module, so you do not
>>>>>>> know how it works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-05-20 16:12 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Bastiaan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thank you for sharing the feedback - its always different to
>>>>>>>> think like customer than developer.
>>>>>>>>  UX plays a vital role and one of the key reasons why Vtiger 6
>>>>>>>> Platform was built for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  We will continue to improve usability.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>  *I *Forums  <https://discussions.vtiger.com>*I* Website<https://www.vtiger.com/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Zebra Hosting <
>>>>>>>> support at zebrahosting.eu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Just sharing a little test I did with  secretary who is doing
>>>>>>>>> some customer contact and never worked with a CRM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I asked her to open the mail manager and answer emails like she
>>>>>>>>> normally does. (IMAP connected)
>>>>>>>>> First thing she tried was open en email and  looking for ways to
>>>>>>>>> move it to a folder (not possible in open mail)
>>>>>>>>> Then closed the mail, tried to drag it over to a folder (drag and
>>>>>>>>> drop not supported)
>>>>>>>>> Then saw that she first have to click the checkbox, open a drop
>>>>>>>>> down and select a folder.
>>>>>>>>> 3 steps and she gave up and went back to her mail client. Doesn’t
>>>>>>>>> work when you do hundreds of mails a day.
>>>>>>>>> People get used to modern GUI’s with HTML5, might be time to think
>>>>>>>>> about if for the next version.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  So yes, it is sometimes good, not to think like a developer but
>>>>>>>>> just see normal user working to learn about your GUI…..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Bastiaan Houtkooper
>>>>>>>>>  Zebra Hosting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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> Joe
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