[Vtigercrm-developers] Licensing issues with GPL (was sharing realworld test)
Joe Bordes
joe at tsolucio.com
Thu May 22 08:37:09 GMT 2014
Prasad is correct. TCPDF is LGPL and, thus, it is not in conflict. In
that case I would say that the only GPL library present is AjaxLoader
(qqUploader) in MailManager. So it should be rather easy to get rid of
that dependency.
On 22/05/14 10:26, Joe Bordes wrote:
> Yes, vtiger already uses other libraries, and they SHOULD get rid of
> them, it is incorrect. The thing is that unless you hit onto something
> like facebook, nobody comes asking. If/When vtiger hits onto a gold
> mine, somebody will call a lawyer, in the mean time, you just keep
> trying to make a living...
>
>
>
> On 22/05/14 10:19, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej wrote:
>> We create 4 module (OSS Mail) and only first module have GPL license,
>> other tools dont use roudcube (other licenses). Vtiger use many
>> libraries like TCPDF on GNU licenses.
>>
>>
>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> M: +48.884999123
>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>>
>>
>> 2014-05-22 9:59 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com
>> <mailto:joe at tsolucio.com>>:
>>
>> Correct. In fact you would see yourself forced to change the
>> license on the whole product and make it GPL. In fact that is
>> what may be happening to your own integrated roundcube extension....
>>
>> Another option would be that vtiger changed the license to
>> support dual licensing, then, with a LOT of care and conditions,
>> you could have both together. It is a REALLY tricky thing and I
>> think vtiger does correctly in staying away from the problems,
>> albeit the inconveniences....
>>
>>
>> On 22/05/14 09:24, Matteo Baranzoni wrote:
>>> I think GPL it's not compatible with VPL....
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-22 9:18 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
>>> <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>>:
>>>
>>> And what is the problem?
>>>
>>>
>>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-22 4:42 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com
>>> <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>>:
>>>
>>> RoundCube is under GPL License which is strict to grow
>>> OpenSource.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Prasad
>>>
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>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
>>> <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Poorly you did, that you wrote your own email
>>> client. Why did not you use roundcube?
>>>
>>>
>>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-21 6:20 GMT+02:00 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com
>>> <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>>:
>>>
>>> B?az.ej,
>>>
>>> Contributions welcome.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Pabiszczak,
>>> B?az.ej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that you do not use the mail
>>> module, so you do not know how it works.
>>>
>>>
>>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-05-20 16:12 GMT+02:00 Prasad
>>> <prasad at vtiger.com <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>>:
>>>
>>> Bastiaan,
>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing the feedback - its
>>> always different to think like customer
>>> than developer.
>>> UX plays a vital role and one of the key
>>> reasons why Vtiger 6 Platform was built for.
>>>
>>> We will continue to improve usability.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Zebra
>>> Hosting <support at zebrahosting.eu
>>> <mailto:support at zebrahosting.eu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just sharing a little test I did
>>> with secretary who is doing some
>>> customer contact and never worked
>>> with a CRM.
>>>
>>> I asked her to open the mail manager
>>> and answer emails like she normally
>>> does. (IMAP connected)
>>> First thing she tried was open en
>>> email and looking for ways to move
>>> it to a folder (not possible in open
>>> mail)
>>> Then closed the mail, tried to drag
>>> it over to a folder (drag and drop
>>> not supported)
>>> Then saw that she first have to
>>> click the checkbox, open a drop down
>>> and select a folder.
>>> 3 steps and she gave up and went
>>> back to her mail client. Doesn't
>>> work when you do hundreds of mails a
>>> day.
>>> People get used to modern GUI's with
>>> HTML5, might be time to think about
>>> if for the next version.
>>>
>>> So yes, it is sometimes good, not to
>>> think like a developer but just see
>>> normal user working to learn about
>>> your GUI.....
>>>
>>> Bastiaan Houtkooper
>>> Zebra Hosting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> Un saludo
> Joe
> TSolucio
>
>
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Un saludo
Joe
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