[Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger 6

[Adrián Granado - Refineria Web]

Seems that you missunderstand my whole text, what it is a pity :(

> Any company can set whatever deadlines they like (or not, as the case
> may). There is no law on the planet that governs release schedules
> regardless of the size of company. vTiger can do what they want, when
> they want. Though they can be criticised for many things, please don't
> criticise them for that.

It's obvius there is no rule in the planet saying this. The reason I said
WHAT DOES don’t meet the project deadlines (loses value and credit etc).

> Like everything with Open Source (note that doesn't necessarily mean
> FREE) you get what you pay for..... if you don't like what they do,
> apply for a refund. AFAIAA there is no official release schedule for the
> Open Source version.

> If you want to make demands on a company, then pay them and I am sure
> they will listen and react accordingly.

Im not making a demand in any moment. When I say: " Meet the project
deadlines is a general demand of every company.", I mean is an internally
demand of every company, Obviusly the companies don’t need to make public
every schedule of every product.

> vTiger 6 OPEN SOURCE is not production ready as far as vTiger are
> concerned. If you choose to deploy it then that is your decision, your
> responsibility and your problem, not theirs.

And I didn’t say other thing. They can decide not release the code if they
want. No problems with this. Don’t get mad. If they decide this, the product
will lose more value (In a example).


In conclusion. You can do what you want with your product (deep inside, It's
what im saying) , you can lie (AND PLEASE DON’T MISUNDERSTAND, IM NOT SAYING
THEY ARE LYING) about your product features, lie about schedules or what you
want, BUT, if your product loses value and credit, PLEASE, don’t cry.

If you release some dates, just try to adapt and meet the deadlines. Like if
you release some features, try to adapt and make it work.




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De: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
[mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] En nombre de John
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Enviado el: lunes, 11 de noviembre de 2013 11:05
Para: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
Asunto: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger 6

On 08/11/13 10:09, Adrián Granado - Refineria Web wrote:
> This is an acceptable opinion but I think your statement is incorrect. You
> can not say: "it will be released when 
> we deem it to be ready." 

Of COURSE they can. They can say what they like.

> At least if you pretend to be serious. Did you ever
> seen a big company saying this? I didn’t. 
> 

Any company can set whatever deadlines they like (or not, as the case
may). There is no law on the planet that governs release schedules
regardless of the size of company. vTiger can do what they want, when
they want. Though they can be criticised for many things, please don't
criticise them for that.

> Meet the project deadlines is a general demand of every company. I can
> understand lot of people is putting some much pressure in the release but
> you are in the other extreme opposite side.
> 
> The companies should accomplish the project deadlines. I'm sorry, but this
> is the TRUTH. If don’t, the product loses value and credit even if it's
the
> best product ever made.
> 

Like everything with Open Source (note that doesn't necessarily mean
FREE) you get what you pay for..... if you don't like what they do,
apply for a refund. AFAIAA there is no official release schedule for the
Open Source version.

If you want to make demands on a company, then pay them and I am sure
they will listen and react accordingly.

If you want it for nothing then you will just have to wait until they
are ready, whenever that may be.

vTiger put their paying customers first (as I am sure that you ALL do).
That is a commercial decision, and they are entitled to it. They have
costs that have to be paid for. Without funding from paying customers,
there would be no Open Source version.

vTiger 6 OPEN SOURCE is not production ready as far as vTiger are
concerned. If you choose to deploy it then that is your decision, your
responsibility and your problem, not theirs.

So please, stop carping and moaning about release dates. It's boring.

B. Rgds
John
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