[Vtigercrm-developers] vt6 versus zf2

Richard Hills richard at tw.co.nz
Tue Feb 19 13:28:48 PST 2013


1 - Unfortunately we're in the same boat. I am hoping that at least some 
vtlib module migrations will be straight forward, however have ignored 
this completely so far as I await a rc.
2 - This is the price we pay for forking the base of the system right?

On 20/02/13 10:14, Adam Heinz wrote:
> I don't know about anybody else, but in order to migrate to vt6, I'm 
> looking at:
> 1. rewrite sixteen custom modules
> 2. reimplement all vt5 patches for vt6
>
> Without any sort of adapter to provide backwards compatibility, I am 
> forced to do all this work at once, instead of being able to spread it 
> out over time as I respond to our normal queue of bugs and feature 
> requests.  As far as one might "prefer one hard redesign, without 
> compatibility," I think that's only true when you have a deprecation 
> period to make the transition.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de 
> <mailto:ich at stefanwarnat.de>> wrote:
>
>     I don't have look at details of the vtiger6 structure vtiger6 and
>     I think it isn't a perfect system,
>     but I think anything inside the modules directory will be deleted
>     on release date and later modules will be only in vtiger6 directory.
>
>     My experience is, that files from "modules" Directory won't be
>     used inside new vtiger6 theme.
>
>     But probably it's true, most/all vtiger developer prefer one hard
>     redesign, without compatibility, before lots of little changes,
>     which needs lots of tests/work with every version.
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>     Am 19.02.2013 16:36, schrieb Adam Heinz:
>>     "Keep the vtiger6 code operational?"  How about keeping the
>>     vtiger5 code operational?!  You forked your own modules to create
>>     the vtiger6 subfolder.  I have no idea how I'm supposed to merge
>>     a branch that contains a partial copy of itself, much less
>>     attempt to preserve any sort of merge/edit history.  This is the
>>     largest bowl of copy pasta I've ever encountered in fifteen years
>>     of professional development.  It shows a grave lack of restraint
>>     and/or understanding of how to refactor a system while keeping it
>>     operational.
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com
>>     <mailto:prasad at vtiger.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Adam,
>>
>>         We did have a look at several frameworks and evolved a simple
>>         one that
>>         can give us better control to keep the vtiger6 code
>>         operational with 5.x while
>>         our dev-team is on making progress.
>>
>>         Please do share your feedback if you find anything
>>         essentially lacking in vtiger6 framework.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Prasad
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Adam Heinz
>>         <amh at metricwise.net <mailto:amh at metricwise.net>> wrote:
>>
>>             I'm poking around in vgcal right now and am extremely
>>             glad to see how much Zend code it uses.  Did you guys
>>             consider using ZendFramework 2 MVC instead of rolling
>>             your own for vtiger6?
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