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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">1 - Unfortunately we're in the same
      boat. I am hoping that at least some vtlib module migrations will
      be straight forward, however have ignored this completely so far
      as I await a rc.<br>
      2 - This is the price we pay for forking the base of the system
      right?<br>
      <br>
      On 20/02/13 10:14, Adam Heinz wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAKBdvM9hFzA4JrMComsprkf-XBOvY72BgfHKGvgNGZh2wgiYSw@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">I don't know about anybody else, but in order to
        migrate to vt6, I'm looking at:
        <div>1. rewrite sixteen custom modules</div>
        <div style="">2. reimplement all vt5 patches for vt6</div>
        <div style=""><br>
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        <div style="">Without any sort of adapter to provide backwards
          compatibility, I am forced to do all this work at once,
          instead of being able to spread it out over time as I respond
          to our normal queue of bugs and feature requests. &nbsp;As far as
          one might "<span
            style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">prefer
            one hard redesign, without compatibility," I think that's
            only true when you have a deprecation period to make the
            transition.</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM,
          Stefan Warnat <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ich@stefanwarnat.de" target="_blank">ich@stefanwarnat.de</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I don't have look at
              details of the vtiger6 structure vtiger6 and I think it
              isn't a perfect system, <br>
              but I think anything inside the modules directory will be
              deleted on release date and later modules will be only in
              vtiger6 directory.<br>
              <br>
              My experience is, that files from "modules" Directory
              won't be used inside new vtiger6 theme.<br>
              <br>
              But probably it's true, most/all vtiger developer prefer
              one hard redesign, without compatibility, before lots of
              little changes, which needs lots of tests/work with every
              version.<br>
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              Am 19.02.2013 16:36, schrieb Adam Heinz:
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                    <div dir="ltr">"Keep the vtiger6 code operational?"
                      &nbsp;How about keeping the vtiger5 code operational?!
                      &nbsp;You forked your own modules to create the vtiger6
                      subfolder. &nbsp;I have no idea how I'm supposed to
                      merge a branch that contains a partial copy of
                      itself, much less attempt to preserve any sort of
                      merge/edit history. &nbsp;This is the largest bowl of
                      copy pasta I've ever encountered in fifteen years
                      of professional development. &nbsp;It shows a grave
                      lack of restraint and/or understanding of how to
                      refactor a system while keeping it operational.</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at
                        11:30 PM, Prasad <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:prasad@vtiger.com"
                            target="_blank">prasad@vtiger.com</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          solid;padding-left:1ex"> Adam,
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>We did have a look at several frameworks
                            and evolved a simple one that</div>
                          <div>can give us better control to keep the
                            vtiger6 code operational with 5.x while</div>
                          <div>our dev-team is on making progress.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Please do share your feedback if you find
                            anything essentially lacking in vtiger6
                            framework.<br>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Regards,</div>
                            <div>Prasad<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div>On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM,
                                  Adam Heinz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:amh@metricwise.net"
                                      target="_blank">amh@metricwise.net</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">I'm poking around in
                                      vgcal right now and am extremely
                                      glad to see how much&nbsp;Zend&nbsp;code it
                                      uses. &nbsp;Did you guys consider using
                                      ZendFramework 2 MVC instead of
                                      rolling your own for vtiger6?</div>
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