[Vtigercrm-developers] Report for vtiger 5 today svn version (rev 5728)

Abos webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org
Thu May 11 15:51:21 PDT 2006 

Sergio,
Mike Crowe has sended me latest version of his gettext patch, i can mail 
you that if you want.


Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> I'm short on time, but I can give it a try this weekend,
> but the patch enabling gettext will be accepted or is too late ?
>
> 1) the patch should be short
> 2) the current translations can be mantained in the transition, I see
> no problem in enabling gettext strings each by one
>
> regards,
> /sak
>
> On 5/11/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>   
>> Hi Sergio,
>> do not miss understand (i know my english is poor),
>> i'm not against gettext, if you have capabilitie to provide gettext
>> support for vtiger crm 5 in short time, i provide french pack in pot
>> format without any problem in same time.
>> But i think before gettext integration, we have to ask to the
>> translaters, to know their capabilities.
>> Regards,
>> Aïssa
>>
>> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
>>     
>>> aisa, is a lot more probably that you *gain* translators instead of
>>> loosing them...
>>> (I don't know how you came to that conclusion)
>>>
>>> don't be afraid of gettext, the day you know it, you will wonder why
>>> this thing hasn't used before...
>>>
>>> gettext doesn't resolve the harcoded strings problems,
>>> BUT it makes the task of mark a string to be tranlated SO easy, that's
>>> is not even funny...
>>>
>>> all you have to do is to change something from:
>>>
>>> echo "harcoded string";
>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>> echo _("translatable string");
>>>
>>> then you run a script that does all the dirty work for you...
>>> and voilé, you have all the diccionaries updated and sinchronized...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> ok,
>>>> Translate on array is boring, but really easy, using tool like poedit...
>>>> is another thing (not really difficult i agree).
>>>> But i prefer translate on php files and have vtiger CRM 5 may be for
>>>> june than wait 2 more months and have gettext.
>>>> Gettext doesn't resolve all the harcode problems (please confim).
>>>> And before make the change, we have to train/inform the translators,
>>>> loose some translators (and lang so) during the change is not good.
>>>> Aïssa
>>>>
>>>> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> gettext is an order of magnitude easier to use for translators (than
>>>>> an array based aproach) if you use poedit.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.poedit.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> and I do not want to mention that gettext produces and keep
>>>>> sincronized the files to translate automagically...
>>>>>
>>>>> /sak
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> this is a small report for today svn snapshot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Homepage : latest activities added layer appear (see screenshot), i
>>>>>> think you know already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tab marketing, subtab account & contact, if i add an task/activitie, the
>>>>>> redirection goes to tab support, the good subtab. (very small problem)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tab "More information", when i translate close (for task/events) the
>>>>>> table is not correctly displyed, miss the cell for close (X).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The compose email pop up, is just a little to small (need 50px weight more),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem with ' in company field information (alway),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When i send an email to a lead or contact, lead/contact description
>>>>>> added to mail body. Very very very bad ! Imagine my comment, "fucking
>>>>>> guy, dislike to work with him, bad debtor". Ouch !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't change invoices status, quotes /SO/PO stage on picklist settings
>>>>>> (i think you just need time for quotes/SO/PO, but for the invoices, it's
>>>>>> miss since 4.x)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Migration script alway break the install, i have make a test with a new
>>>>>> and clean vtiger crm 4.2.3 database (without adding any data), only 4
>>>>>> tables created : *actionmapping, announcement,  field_seq,
>>>>>> profile2globalpermissions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Brand question (i think to saint ?) why design the tiger pound to left
>>>>>> on rss, calendar, email module ? The vtiger logo use a pount inclined to
>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Migration question :
>>>>>> Why not provide migration script during install ? With user choice
>>>>>> install/upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Loggin question : The logs make vtiger CRM slow, why not put loggin to
>>>>>> WARN for stable version ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adding 1 more field to calls/meetings for incoming/outgoing can be very
>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now the good things :)
>>>>>> New really impressive design for the calendar, very very good !
>>>>>> The quick create function can be a killer feature on vtiger 5 (time
>>>>>> winning!!!)!
>>>>>> The search engine is very cool, now we can search on entire system.
>>>>>> The report module !!!! Ouch !!!! USABLE ! (Richie forgot what i have
>>>>>> said about report module ;) )
>>>>>> New real effort for translaters, thankkkksssssss, i am impatient to see
>>>>>> vtiger crm 5 full french (and all french users too) !
>>>>>> MSG to Richie, you say about i18n on forum: " Yes, we do need help.",
>>>>>> what kind of help ? Harcode string feedback ? Moving harcode to lang
>>>>>> file and give a patch ?... I'm ready.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About gettext, the problem with gettext, is you can loose translaters,
>>>>>> gettext is more difficult to use, but more efficient. We need a full
>>>>>> translate of vtiger CRM 5 (not 6). So for now, it's the right decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Conclusion : vtiger crm 5 is on the right way, look good, smell good.
>>>>>> And i'm really enthusiastic(not sure for this word)
>>>>>> I hope the plug-ins with same quality.
>>>>>> Aïssa,
>>>>>> gone to write a news on vtiger france
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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