[Vtigercrm-developers] Report for vtiger 5 today svn version (rev 5728)

Thu May 11 15:18:28 PDT 2006

I'm short on time, but I can give it a try this weekend,
but the patch enabling gettext will be accepted or is too late ?

1) the patch should be short
2) the current translations can be mantained in the transition, I see
no problem in enabling gettext strings each by one

regards,
/sak

On 5/11/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> Hi Sergio,
> do not miss understand (i know my english is poor),
> i'm not against gettext, if you have capabilitie to provide gettext
> support for vtiger crm 5 in short time, i provide french pack in pot
> format without any problem in same time.
> But i think before gettext integration, we have to ask to the
> translaters, to know their capabilities.
> Regards,
> Aïssa
>
> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> > aisa, is a lot more probably that you *gain* translators instead of
> > loosing them...
> > (I don't know how you came to that conclusion)
> >
> > don't be afraid of gettext, the day you know it, you will wonder why
> > this thing hasn't used before...
> >
> > gettext doesn't resolve the harcoded strings problems,
> > BUT it makes the task of mark a string to be tranlated SO easy, that's
> > is not even funny...
> >
> > all you have to do is to change something from:
> >
> > echo "harcoded string";
> >
> > to
> >
> > echo _("translatable string");
> >
> > then you run a script that does all the dirty work for you...
> > and voilé, you have all the diccionaries updated and sinchronized...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> >
> >> ok,
> >> Translate on array is boring, but really easy, using tool like poedit...
> >> is another thing (not really difficult i agree).
> >> But i prefer translate on php files and have vtiger CRM 5 may be for
> >> june than wait 2 more months and have gettext.
> >> Gettext doesn't resolve all the harcode problems (please confim).
> >> And before make the change, we have to train/inform the translators,
> >> loose some translators (and lang so) during the change is not good.
> >> Aïssa
> >>
> >> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> >>
> >>> gettext is an order of magnitude easier to use for translators (than
> >>> an array based aproach) if you use poedit.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.poedit.org/
> >>>
> >>> and I do not want to mention that gettext produces and keep
> >>> sincronized the files to translate automagically...
> >>>
> >>> /sak
> >>>
> >>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> this is a small report for today svn snapshot.
> >>>>
> >>>> Homepage : latest activities added layer appear (see screenshot), i
> >>>> think you know already.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tab marketing, subtab account & contact, if i add an task/activitie, the
> >>>> redirection goes to tab support, the good subtab. (very small problem)
> >>>>
> >>>> Tab "More information", when i translate close (for task/events) the
> >>>> table is not correctly displyed, miss the cell for close (X).
> >>>>
> >>>> The compose email pop up, is just a little to small (need 50px weight more),
> >>>>
> >>>> Problem with ' in company field information (alway),
> >>>>
> >>>> When i send an email to a lead or contact, lead/contact description
> >>>> added to mail body. Very very very bad ! Imagine my comment, "fucking
> >>>> guy, dislike to work with him, bad debtor". Ouch !
> >>>>
> >>>> Can't change invoices status, quotes /SO/PO stage on picklist settings
> >>>> (i think you just need time for quotes/SO/PO, but for the invoices, it's
> >>>> miss since 4.x)
> >>>>
> >>>> Migration script alway break the install, i have make a test with a new
> >>>> and clean vtiger crm 4.2.3 database (without adding any data), only 4
> >>>> tables created : *actionmapping, announcement,  field_seq,
> >>>> profile2globalpermissions.
> >>>>
> >>>> *Brand question (i think to saint ?) why design the tiger pound to left
> >>>> on rss, calendar, email module ? The vtiger logo use a pount inclined to
> >>>> right.
> >>>>
> >>>> Migration question :
> >>>> Why not provide migration script during install ? With user choice
> >>>> install/upgrade.
> >>>>
> >>>> Loggin question : The logs make vtiger CRM slow, why not put loggin to
> >>>> WARN for stable version ?
> >>>>
> >>>> Adding 1 more field to calls/meetings for incoming/outgoing can be very
> >>>> good.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now the good things :)
> >>>> New really impressive design for the calendar, very very good !
> >>>> The quick create function can be a killer feature on vtiger 5 (time
> >>>> winning!!!)!
> >>>> The search engine is very cool, now we can search on entire system.
> >>>> The report module !!!! Ouch !!!! USABLE ! (Richie forgot what i have
> >>>> said about report module ;) )
> >>>> New real effort for translaters, thankkkksssssss, i am impatient to see
> >>>> vtiger crm 5 full french (and all french users too) !
> >>>> MSG to Richie, you say about i18n on forum: " Yes, we do need help.",
> >>>> what kind of help ? Harcode string feedback ? Moving harcode to lang
> >>>> file and give a patch ?... I'm ready.
> >>>>
> >>>> About gettext, the problem with gettext, is you can loose translaters,
> >>>> gettext is more difficult to use, but more efficient. We need a full
> >>>> translate of vtiger CRM 5 (not 6). So for now, it's the right decision.
> >>>>
> >>>> Conclusion : vtiger crm 5 is on the right way, look good, smell good.
> >>>> And i'm really enthusiastic(not sure for this word)
> >>>> I hope the plug-ins with same quality.
> >>>> Aïssa,
> >>>> gone to write a news on vtiger france
> >>>>
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