[Vtigercrm-developers] Report for vtiger 5 today svn version (rev 5728)

[Abos]

Hi Sergio,
do not miss understand (i know my english is poor),
i'm not against gettext, if you have capabilitie to provide gettext 
support for vtiger crm 5 in short time, i provide french pack in pot 
format without any problem in same time.
But i think before gettext integration, we have to ask to the 
translaters, to know their capabilities.
Regards,
Aïssa

Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> aisa, is a lot more probably that you *gain* translators instead of
> loosing them...
> (I don't know how you came to that conclusion)
>
> don't be afraid of gettext, the day you know it, you will wonder why
> this thing hasn't used before...
>
> gettext doesn't resolve the harcoded strings problems,
> BUT it makes the task of mark a string to be tranlated SO easy, that's
> is not even funny...
>
> all you have to do is to change something from:
>
> echo "harcoded string";
>
> to
>
> echo _("translatable string");
>
> then you run a script that does all the dirty work for you...
> and voilé, you have all the diccionaries updated and sinchronized...
>
>
>
> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>   
>> ok,
>> Translate on array is boring, but really easy, using tool like poedit...
>> is another thing (not really difficult i agree).
>> But i prefer translate on php files and have vtiger CRM 5 may be for
>> june than wait 2 more months and have gettext.
>> Gettext doesn't resolve all the harcode problems (please confim).
>> And before make the change, we have to train/inform the translators,
>> loose some translators (and lang so) during the change is not good.
>> Aïssa
>>
>> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
>>     
>>> gettext is an order of magnitude easier to use for translators (than
>>> an array based aproach) if you use poedit.
>>>
>>> http://www.poedit.org/
>>>
>>> and I do not want to mention that gettext produces and keep
>>> sincronized the files to translate automagically...
>>>
>>> /sak
>>>
>>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> this is a small report for today svn snapshot.
>>>>
>>>> Homepage : latest activities added layer appear (see screenshot), i
>>>> think you know already.
>>>>
>>>> Tab marketing, subtab account & contact, if i add an task/activitie, the
>>>> redirection goes to tab support, the good subtab. (very small problem)
>>>>
>>>> Tab "More information", when i translate close (for task/events) the
>>>> table is not correctly displyed, miss the cell for close (X).
>>>>
>>>> The compose email pop up, is just a little to small (need 50px weight more),
>>>>
>>>> Problem with ' in company field information (alway),
>>>>
>>>> When i send an email to a lead or contact, lead/contact description
>>>> added to mail body. Very very very bad ! Imagine my comment, "fucking
>>>> guy, dislike to work with him, bad debtor". Ouch !
>>>>
>>>> Can't change invoices status, quotes /SO/PO stage on picklist settings
>>>> (i think you just need time for quotes/SO/PO, but for the invoices, it's
>>>> miss since 4.x)
>>>>
>>>> Migration script alway break the install, i have make a test with a new
>>>> and clean vtiger crm 4.2.3 database (without adding any data), only 4
>>>> tables created : *actionmapping, announcement,  field_seq,
>>>> profile2globalpermissions.
>>>>
>>>> *Brand question (i think to saint ?) why design the tiger pound to left
>>>> on rss, calendar, email module ? The vtiger logo use a pount inclined to
>>>> right.
>>>>
>>>> Migration question :
>>>> Why not provide migration script during install ? With user choice
>>>> install/upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Loggin question : The logs make vtiger CRM slow, why not put loggin to
>>>> WARN for stable version ?
>>>>
>>>> Adding 1 more field to calls/meetings for incoming/outgoing can be very
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> Now the good things :)
>>>> New really impressive design for the calendar, very very good !
>>>> The quick create function can be a killer feature on vtiger 5 (time
>>>> winning!!!)!
>>>> The search engine is very cool, now we can search on entire system.
>>>> The report module !!!! Ouch !!!! USABLE ! (Richie forgot what i have
>>>> said about report module ;) )
>>>> New real effort for translaters, thankkkksssssss, i am impatient to see
>>>> vtiger crm 5 full french (and all french users too) !
>>>> MSG to Richie, you say about i18n on forum: " Yes, we do need help.",
>>>> what kind of help ? Harcode string feedback ? Moving harcode to lang
>>>> file and give a patch ?... I'm ready.
>>>>
>>>> About gettext, the problem with gettext, is you can loose translaters,
>>>> gettext is more difficult to use, but more efficient. We need a full
>>>> translate of vtiger CRM 5 (not 6). So for now, it's the right decision.
>>>>
>>>> Conclusion : vtiger crm 5 is on the right way, look good, smell good.
>>>> And i'm really enthusiastic(not sure for this word)
>>>> I hope the plug-ins with same quality.
>>>> Aïssa,
>>>> gone to write a news on vtiger france
>>>>
>>>>
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