[Vtigercrm-developers] Missing Database Fields in VT8.3 fresh install

[Simone Travaglini]

Hi Prasad,
what can you tell us about the frontend?
Currently, there's a huge gap in technology and usability between Vtiger
Open Source and Vtiger On Demand.
Is anything planned for upcoming releases?

Il giorno sab 5 apr 2025 alle ore 05:50 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> ha
scritto:

> Tom,
>
> We are focusing on better backend
> that will provide strong base building
> business apps. As of now team is
> focusing on prototyping and building
> proof-of-concept.
>
> Giving enough time for this exercise is
> Important before opening up for receiving
> feedback.
>
> While new things takes time to shape and
> adoption, it’s important to get right ones
> attended for production use. Keeping this
> In mind we are not making major changes to
> 8.X base.
>
> Be patient and have a good weekend.
>
> Regards,
> Prasad
>
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 at 9:04 PM, Tom Brown <support at vtexperts.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed.
>>
>> I believe a lot of us want to contribute, however we can not do that
>> without the sufficient resources/involvement from Vtiger.
>>
>> In addition, it is difficult to contribute NEW features without making
>> the code more complicated. The most basic use case was explained by Ruben #1678
>> - Improvement of uitypes creation
>> <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/-/issues/1678> and it's been a
>> minute since then.
>>
>> Back in 2022, the community was getting impatient and Sreenivas Kanumuru
>> got involved too. Ref:
>> http://lists.vtigercrm.com/pipermail/vtigercrm-developers/2022-July/040819.html
>> I feel like we are approaching the same point again.
>>
>> Prasad is and has been our hero, but heroes are in high demand. Given
>> Prasad's seniority at Vtiger, I'm sure he has higher priorities and
>> something has to give. It is a tough problem to have. That being
>> said, @Prasad  - are there any plans to allocate more resources to the
>> open-source? Is that even feasible?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 1:53 PM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree, it's not Prasad's fault  and that's clear.
>>>
>>> But I think the Open source version is just being updated to comply with
>>> newer php versions so that it keeps being installed in shared hosting
>>> accounts (cpanel). There's been hardly improvements or new features. Each
>>> new version corrects bugs but introduces new ones. jquery is totally
>>> obsolete now and so are many other libraries used by Vtiger. The coding
>>> standards are low: functions that are  hundreds of lines long, duplicate
>>> code, no tests and no style standards. Still, I'm grateful for vtiger's
>>> existence and I'm willing to contribute (I already do) but sometimes it
>>> gets frustrating.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:49 AM Vincenzo Bruno <v.bruno at vinsoft.it>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think we are al little bit OT, but I threw the stone...
>>>>
>>>> I don't agree on this.
>>>>
>>>> Switching on composer, switching on PHP 8.x and avoiding Deprecated
>>>> messages where huge tasks and community pushed hardly for them.
>>>>
>>>> Prasad is quite responsive lately and this is positive!
>>>>
>>>> Maybe a single person cannot maintain a big project like Vtiger, I
>>>> don't know how many of them are on the Community edition. I don't even know
>>>> how community can contribute more, besides sending Issues and MR. There are
>>>> 516 open issues, maybe Prasad needs help. Maybe Prasad  should ask some
>>>> help from community.
>>>>
>>>> I hove I have started a constructive discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Vincenzo
>>>> Il 03/04/25 19:17, Rubén A. Estrada Orozco ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> I agree, there's too many bugs. To me, it looked like they were just
>>>> blindly trying to be php8.2 compatible making code adaptations without
>>>> testing. I guess Vtiger trusts us to report the bugs introduced in each new
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 2:42 AM Vincenzo Bruno <v.bruno at vinsoft.it>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear community,
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of headache configuring IMAP client in VT 8.3.0, then figuring
>>>>> out
>>>>> fields are missing in DB.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem arises only in fresh installs, not in upgraded install.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fields are added in migration script:
>>>>> modules/Migration/schema/820_to_830.php
>>>>> but are missing in database schema: schema/DatabaseSchema.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to quickly fix a fresh install of VT 8.3.0 we can manually
>>>>> run
>>>>> the code of 820_to_830.php script
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Today I find a similar Issue was opened 1 month ago
>>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/-/issues/1950
>>>>>
>>>>> PPS: VT 8.3.0 is so buggy it must be retired from download or a bugfix
>>>>> version 8.3.1 should be urgently released
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Vincenzo Bruno
>>>>> Coopyleft - www.coopyleft.it
>>>>> tel: 3287252923
>>>>> Digital Polis (www.digitalpolis.it)
>>>>> Hacklab Cosenza (www.hlcs.it)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Vincenzo Bruno
>>>> Coopyleft - www.coopyleft.it
>>>> tel: 3287252923
>>>> Digital Polis (www.digitalpolis.it)
>>>> Hacklab Cosenza (www.hlcs.it)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>
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>>
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