[Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on code.vtiger.com since weeks?!

Tue Jul 19 08:31:16 GMT 2022

Hi

I know there was an attempt to fork vtiger a few years back. Later it was
decided to stay with vtiger open source. Because there were too many
similar CRMs already in the market already including Yeti and suite. Anyway
the Open Source progress is very slow.

The infrastructure roadmap should be considered on the other side, which is
seriously diverted to cloud at the moment. Developing a support system
using modern stacks such as MERN or MEAN or using PHP frameworks such as
Phalcon or Laravel becomes relatively easier  than forking and evolving  a
monolithic. So we have to consider how to contribute to an open source
project efficiently to meet the future.

I suggest, separating the frontend and backend, similar to the Magento (Now
Adobe commerce) PWA storefront, would be the best approach to migrate to
modern platforms. Vtiger commercial may derive the benefits from this
approach.

Thanks
Sutharsan Jeganathan

On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 7:17 PM Martin Allen <martin.allen at exe-squared.co.uk>
wrote:

> This is what is needed – however I am realistic in that either the whole
> (or majority of) vTiger open-source community needs to migrate to a
> Community version OR it just becomes *another* fork.
>
> Like I said previously without the functionality of some key plugins, we
> wouldn’t migrate (unless we found a client willing to pay for us to develop
> our own version of it in a new CRM!)
>
> vTiger themselves clearly don’t’ want to implement the functionality that
> we’re all asking for, as they have no business need to – ultimately they
> are selling their own vTiger version that doesn’t have/need to e.g. use
> Composer unless they want it to.
>
>
>
> So where does that leave us? Stuck between a rock and a hard place –
> no-one will migrate unless everyone else migrates…so who goes first?
>
> And then whose in charge of the new community version? Whoever setups a
> repo in GitHub first?
>
> The ideal solution in my eyes would be to have a body of people
> responsible for driving the direction of the project, who represent the
> community, and are responsible for managing the pull-requests etc. But that
> roles currently being done (when they are allowed to!) by paid employees of
> vTiger…
>
>
>
> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com <
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> *On Behalf Of *Ing.
> Francesco Bianco
> *Sent:* 18 July 2022 13:54
> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on
> code.vtiger.com since weeks?!
>
>
>
> A good point could be to create a Community Contributed version of Vtiger.
> Something that stays true to the original version but accepts small
> independent contributions and bug support.
> My biggest fear is that if Composer support is not introduced soon, the
> software will neither be upgradeable nor usable at a professional level.
>
>
>
> Il giorno lun 18 lug 2022 alle ore 14:36 Matus Sopko <sopko at its4you.sk>
> ha scritto:
>
> First thanks to Martin ;-)
> Second, what we don't like in Yeti is the registration process:
> https://yetiforce.com/en/marketplace/system-registration
>
>
> Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Matus
>
> IT-Solutions4You (ITS4You)
>
>
>
> SLOVAKIA
>
> Dňa 18. 7. 2022 o 13:51 Martin Allen napísal(a):
>
> I’ve looked at YetiForce a couple of times (not massively in-depth) and to
> be honest if it had EmailMaker and PDFMaker (from Its4You team) then I’d be
> looking at it as a realistic alternative – currently those two plugins
> allow our end-users so much additional functionality that customers want,
> that we basically install it in all our new CRMs by default now. So to
> switch to something that doesn’t have the same functionality is much harder
> to sell to clients. (even if behind the scenes its 10x better!)
>
>
>
> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com
> <vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com>
> <vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> *On Behalf Of *Rubén
> A. Estrada Orozco
> *Sent:* 15 July 2022 18:33
> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on
> code.vtiger.com since weeks?!
>
>
>
> Have you guys considered this alternative?:
> https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/commits/developer
>
> There have been DAiLY commits for a long time.
>
>
>
> I don't mean to disrespect anybody. It's really an honest question. I'm
> really interested in what you think about Yeti.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
>
> Rubén
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 11:49 AM Sutharsan J <ajstharsan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Thinks are going on here eh?
> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/tree/master
>
>
>
> Last commit was 2 months ago?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 8:10 PM Martin Allen <
> martin.allen at exe-squared.co.uk> wrote:
>
> https://github.com/vtiger-crm/vtigercrm
>
>
>
> It looks a little bit out of date though…… 😊
>
>
>
> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com <
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> *On Behalf Of *Ing.
> Francesco Bianco
> *Sent:* 15 July 2022 12:46
> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on
> code.vtiger.com since weeks?!
>
>
>
> Good point BUT having an official place on GitHub is an important
> placeholder.
>
> Many software not use GitHub as a primary source, BUT at the same time
> have a GitHub presence with a MIRROR
>
>
>
> This is the mirror of popular make tool from SAVANNAH directory on GitHub
> https://github.com/mirror/make
>
>
>
> I say ENOUGH accusing the VTIGER team, let's roll up our sleeves and
> create something ourselves. Let's give a modern touch to this project. It
> is unforgivable that even today CI or Docker or simply PHP Code Sniffer are
> not used to detect unused variables. But we want to wake up!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno gio 14 lug 2022 alle ore 19:00 Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
> rulotec1 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> Because they chose to host their own GitLab open source platform. In my
> opinion GitHub would be better.
>
>
> Saludos
>
>
>
> Rubén
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:38 AM Ing. Francesco Bianco <
> info.francescobianco at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why does Vtiger have NO official place on GitHub?
>
>
>
> Il giorno gio 14 lug 2022 alle ore 17:08 lajeesh k <lajeeshk at gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
> The whole vtiger community should get nominated for the Nobel prize for
> partiance.
>
>
> Regards,
> Lajeesh
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 at 21:05, Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <rulotec1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +2 (me and my dog)
>
> Saludos
>
>
>
> Rubén
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 7:10 AM socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>
>
> / Chris
>
> [image: 4]
>
>
>
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022 at 10:59, Vincenzo Bruno <v.bruno at vinsoft.it> wrote:
>
> UP
>
> Il 14/06/22 13:02, Angelo Paglialonga ha scritto:
>
> Hi @Prasad,
>
> there is too much silence on vtiger open source since weeks:
>
>
>
> no replies to any questions on newsletter,
>
> no answer on any issues and merge request
>
> no merge requests answered
>
> no news about vtiger 7.5 release
>
>
>
> If you don’t have time just let someone in community do it.
>
> We would like to help you, but this way it doesn’t work, it’s just
> pointless.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dott. Angelo Paglialonga*
>
> *Consulenza vTiger CRM ad alto ROI.*
>
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>
>
>
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>
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>
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> contenute
> in questo messaggio sono riservate e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario.
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> comunicazione.
> Grazie.
> _______________________________________________
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