[Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger CRM 7.4.0 GA Release

Rubén A. Estrada Orozco rulotec1 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 9 16:09:43 GMT 2021 

Hi,

I'm curious about the meaning of: "Next version would be 7,5.0 more driven
through community patches."

Does that mean that you guys at vtiger will wait for whatever we can fix
until Jan 2022 and include that in 7.5? Is it like now your role is going
to be limited to merge patches but not to produce them?

Currently what are Vtiger's own resources dedicated to Vtiger Open Source?
Is Uma still in the project?


Saludos

Rubén


On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 4:31 AM Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> wrote:

> Dear Mohan,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
>
> Regards,
> Prasad
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 2:48 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>
>> Dear Prasad,
>>
>> As per my several previous mails, a Wishlist is not a roadmap. Unless
>> there’s a roadmap, you can’t coordinate and schedule anything. So make the
>> time to create a roadmap, so more people can take tasks and help.
>> "Send MR” and “Wishlist” aren’t acceptable unless there is a clear wish
>> to implement them properly. This reflects also in no documentation and
>> legacy code that sits there weighing.
>> Make a Roadmap, document each and every aspect of this platform. You
>> can’t just say “this is a community orientated release”, what does that
>> even mean if clearly you don’t want to even state what this release will
>> contain?
>>
>> If it’s your Wishlist surely you’ll have a plan to implement them. Share
>> it and discuss the details, otherwise make time and discuss publicly -
>> there a number of ways to do it - and let’s make this really community
>> orientated.
>>
>> A Wishlist isn’t a roadmap. Hope I’ve made it clear.
>>
>> *Sukhdev Mohan*
>> *Developer*
>>
>> On 9 Aug 2021, 10:51 +0200, Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com>, wrote:
>>
>> Dear Mohan,
>>
>> It takes time to make a roadmap.
>>
>> I stated the wishlist of mine - I hope you did read it carefully.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Prasad
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:21 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>>
>>> This is not a roadmap nor we are a genie in a lamp. Please try to
>>> articulate a strategy.
>>> Jan 2022 is very close so try to give a priority and if you want we can
>>> have a discussion over discord or what so ever to try and figure out the
>>> right order.
>>>
>>> Il lun 9 ago 2021, 09:44 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> Wishlist:
>>>>
>>>>    - Bug Fixes on 7.4.0
>>>>    - PHP8 compatibility
>>>>
>>>> Target: Jan 2022
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 12:59 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why I'm not surprised ?
>>>>> Dude even if it's community driven there needs to be a clear roadmap
>>>>> to estimate next release time, testing and what to concentrate on.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not a little feature we are talking about but the new release: we
>>>>> should allmdecide what needs to be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Update dependencies
>>>>> - Remove non maintained dependencies
>>>>> - Introduce Composer to manage them easily
>>>>> - PSR0-4?
>>>>> - PHP 8 compatibility
>>>>> And there much more. We need a clear roadmap period.
>>>>>
>>>>> Il lun 9 ago 2021, 09:18 Prasad <prasad at vtiger.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Next version would be 7,5.0 more driven through community patches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please send it over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:30 AM nilay khatri <nilay.spartan at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Uma,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the roadmap for the next release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It has been requested several times after the new releases to have
>>>>>>> a plan for the next version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is better if we were towards defined objectives. I feel the next
>>>>>>> version must be focused towards Library updates and introducing composer,
>>>>>>> solely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bootstrap, PHPMailer, Jquery, Select2 must be upgraded if nothing. I
>>>>>>> understand there are dependencies on jQuery, which you have mentioned
>>>>>>> earlier. But I feel then we should replace those dependencies, if they are
>>>>>>> not actively maintained!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have many patches and new features ready to be merged with Open
>>>>>>> Source but without a clear roadmap at least for the next version, that
>>>>>>> becomes a speed breaker.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 2:36 PM Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Migration issue from 7.3 to 7.4 has been resolved, Please refer
>>>>>>>> here for issue
>>>>>>>> <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/issues/1630> details.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 2:50 AM Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be careful if you are upgrading from 7.3 to 7.4:
>>>>>>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/issues/1630
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saludos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rubén
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That’s great. What I meant was that vtiger is supporting a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> legacy code which should be migrated to php 7 at least, since there’s code
>>>>>>>>>> from PHP 4 (it was released in 2000) there will be a lot of code that has
>>>>>>>>>> to be replaced/rewrite.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was expecting that this release would have at least composer so
>>>>>>>>>> that the internal libraries would be updated, but no mention in the release
>>>>>>>>>> note.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In general it’s your personal experience you’ve updated php
>>>>>>>>>> version on your own risk, it’d be nice if the official installation manual
>>>>>>>>>> reported that it’s at least compatibile (it’d be great if it tells exactly
>>>>>>>>>> which tecnologi and version are required).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> *Sukhdev Mohan* | *Software Developer**5*
>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Jul 2021, 20:24 +0200, Home Plus <gohomeplustv at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I use 7.4 now with 7.3 with no issue...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 1:52 PM Sukhdev Mohan <s.mohan at myti.it>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Ruben. Even though support for php7.2 will be
>>>>>>>>>>> ending this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Recommended is PHP 7.4 but from a simple phostan analysis, the
>>>>>>>>>>> code base has some very old code (PHP 4...).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Il mar 20 lug 2021, 19:44 Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But the manual says: PHP 5.2+, 7.2+
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What does that even mean? Does it mean it's ok to use php 52
>>>>>>>>>>>> with vtiger 7.4? I really don't think that would work.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does it mean I can use php 7.4 or even 8?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel those requirements should be vtiger-version specific.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, we cannot expect the average user to somehow find
>>>>>>>>>>>> that manual. I think it should be clearly stated in the installation
>>>>>>>>>>>> process in Vtiger and not be ambiguous as it currently is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:32 PM Uma S <uma.s at vtiger.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ruben,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This information is enclosed in the manual - Reference
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm-manual/wikis/Administration-Docs>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:59 PM Alexander Allen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alexander.allenz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also the best server configuration for this version will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Congratulations for this release!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El martes, 20 de julio de 2021, Rubén A. Estrada Orozco <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rulotec1 at gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the good news Uma!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the recommended php/mysql-mariadb version? Could we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add a small section in the release notes with that information? I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is important and, as of now, cannot be officially found anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saludos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubén
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Martin Allen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> martin.allen at exe-squared.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who doesn’t love new release day!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well done to all involved! We’ll be rolling it out soon!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com> *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of* Angelo Paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 20 July 2021 14:58
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger CRM 7.4.0 GA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angelo Paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Consulente per soluzioni CRM ad alto ROI.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Telefono: 3386077866
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: angelo.paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web: https://www.angelopaglialonga.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 20 lug 2021, alle ore 15:46, Alan Lord <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alanslists at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice one,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Uma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/07/2021 12:13, Uma S wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Developer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are glad to announce the Vtiger CRM 7.4.0 GA release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the following notable enhancements and bug fixes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This release offers improvements in security, performance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usability and stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Refer here for detailed Release Notes <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/wikis/Release-Notes#version-740rc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to express our special thanks to all the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developers for their contributions through merge requests, validation, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Special thanks to the following members who actively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participated in this release cycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Alan Lord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Its4you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Ruben Estrada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Martin Allen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Code80
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Angelo.paglialonga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger 7.4.0 Download Link :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.vtiger.com/open-source-crm/download-open-source/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you notice any issues, please report on code.vtiger.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://code.vtiger.com/>by prefixing the title with 7.4.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uma.S
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> With
>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>> Uma.S
>>>>>>>> Vtiger Team
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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