[Vtigercrm-developers] In defense of Vtiger or Why not to indulge in flaming the Vtiger team

[Doug]

You are entirely correct. Vtiger is clearly teetering on abandonment or
collapse.

Since Yettiforce is so poorly managed and driven by the specific needs of
one company it is not a viable alternative in spite of the good work done
on it.

They have done a lot of work to clean up vtiger... so until I came upon
SuiteCRM, which like vtiger is also a fork of Sugar, was considering
forking Yettiforce.

However since Suite is as already in good shape decided that was the way
for us to go. There is still room for good developers there.
I hope to see more of you there.

On Sep 14, 2016 10:32 PM, "Tony Sandman" <tonysandman999 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You can not do the same thing twice at the same time, as for sure one will
> not be perfect. Try to drive two bikes...
> For this reason Vtiger business model is not healthy. They should choose
> one way only.
> That's why abandoning vtiger and moving to other fork (setting new one)
> will bring only advantages in term long run.
> Vtiger open source will die one day... this is 100%.
> I also wondering why here are no developers with strategic marketing mind.
> If so, they should be able to
> reveal truth of rotten core of vtiger, enlightening rest of guys. From
> statistic only it is easy to pull out evidence and forecast.
>
> It's about your and yours customers future.
>
> Tony
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Somsak Artwawoot <somsak6som at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I did some work, analyzing vtiger behaviors and it is totally obvious
>> that they won't developers make happy.
>> Developers are competition for them. They was helping unless they lunched
>> stable and nice looking OnDemand.
>> Now developers here are just a pain in their a33.
>> For this reason forks like Corebos or Yetiforce are just more precious.
>> If most of us join one of them, and set some rules/code for working together
>> it may lead to gorgeous result.
>>
>> Defending them is just funny.
>> @Prasad - read archive and learn what was done, what was promised and how
>> they ignoring guys here.
>>
>> Som
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Doug <sailsfast at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Things will not get better here.
>>> This has been going on this way for about 4 years.
>>> Fool me one shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
>>> Leaving and lots of others have already left.
>>>
>>> On Sep 14, 2016 4:37 PM, "TimeZone" <bernard.bailey at timezone.co.nz>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ST,
>>>>
>>>> My thoughts exactly.
>>>>
>>>> If you wish things to get better, do something. Be the change required.
>>>>
>>>> * Bernard G Bailey*
>>>>
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>>>> http://www.vtiger.com/
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