[Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger 7 Features (preliminary list) (B?a?ej Pabiszczak)

[Doug]

I'm not going to respond to your rediclous attack, your attempt to deflect
from your own deficiencies.

In your own words you have chased 315 people from your project.  Me being
one of them.

The problem with the Yetti project is you and your leadership.

On Oct 27, 2016 4:44 AM, "Błażej Pabiszczak" <b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com>
wrote:

> @Doug
>
> For many years you've been criticizing and yelling, but what have you done
> for the Vtiger community? I don’t know why you are so concerned about our
> forum [mailing list]... You've been there for the whole time, but I guess
> you failed to realize that the community moved to GitHub:
> https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/stargazers.
>
> Right now 327 people starred our project, and from what I see at
> http://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm only 32 people liked Vtiger. This
> month 12 people contributed to our project, do you know how many
> contributed to Vtiger? Open your eyes and start giving something, instead
> of just taking.
>
> @TimeZone
>
> If you find me so annoying why won't you block my email in your mail
> client? It'll take you 30 seconds. Vtiger team doesn't need your vote to
> block me on their mailing list. The problem with you and the other
> loudmouths is that you just keep on taking, but can't give anything. You
> say you got over 6 years of experience with Vtiger as far as writing
> scripts and apps is concerned, but tell me how much the Vtiger community
> has benefited on that? I searched far and wide and found nothing.
>
> YetiForce is Vtiger with 11k changes - instead of criticizing you should
> learn how to use it to your own advantage. For 2 years we’ve been uploading
> changes published by Vtiger, fixing them logic-wise, business-wise, and
> safety-wise, ensuring PSR and SensioLabs compatibility. Which of these
> changes have you uploaded to Vtiger? Have you uploaded security fixes to
> your clients’ systems, or do they still use systems full of critical
> security errors?
>
> @All
>
> I’m just like that and I won’t change. OpenSaaS/YetiForce team has helped
> Vtiger’s community a lot over the years. We created free modules, updated
> the language pack, replied to posts added by Polish people and helped users
> on this mailing list. We introduce many changes that can be easily moved to
> Vtiger and it depends on you how you want to benefit from our help. Some
> functionalities have been uploaded to code.vtiger.com [some users even
> deleted our license :/, you should start using CLA!!!] and we think that
> cooperation is a good solution for both projects.
>
> @VtigerTeam
>
> I have to admit you proved to be very patient by accepting all my posts,
> or posts from people associated with other projects [eg. coreBOS], all I
> want to achieve by posting here is making both projects develop equally
> dynamically. When you stop introducing changes it means that I don’t have
> these changes in my project either.
> The Vtiger community expects honesty, but you haven’t been very honest for
> the past couple of years and it might be good to fix this [you got nothing
> to lose]. It only depends on you how much you will use our experience, the
> elements we change right now should interest you, and you should use it. I
> understand that you don’t like many of our changes, but there are many
> other changes that you could add to your system.
>
> The problem is that you don’t develop CE version, but claim that you do.
> It would be better if you said it clearly just like Sugar did with CE
> version, and then no one would have any problems with that. I would stop
> taking part in discussions, because there would be no point doing that. But
> if you develop the system and we upload changes from your system to ours,
> we feel as a part of this system, in particular because we've given a lot.
> There are no people left on this list who would want to switch to
> YetiForce, because those who wanted  already did that a long time ago. I
> suppose that currently we have a larger community of developers than you
> do, so why are we here? In order to cooperate but on an equal basis.
>
> If I wanted to convince people to switch to our project I’d post on :
>
>    1. https://discussions.vtiger.com/
>    2. LinkedIn, groups associated with Vtiger, Open Source, CRM
>    [altogether 200k members]
>    3. Different forums and mailing lists that you don’t control
>
> We constantly learn and we’d rather use the knowledge for cooperation
> instead of competition.
> ---
> Z poważaniem / Regards
>
> *Błażej Pabiszczak*
> *Chief Executive Officer*
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com
>
>
>
> W dniu 2016-10-26 22:00, TimeZone napisał(a):
>
> To the moderator of this list.
>
> You have my vote to remove access to this list for (B?a?ej Pabiszczak).
>
> It is tiresome to read yet another splattter from this spammer.
>
> Posting uninvited content with links to their own product is spamming as
> we all call it.
>
> We would not allow this type of post, if it was a SugarCRM or other
> loosely related CRM.
>
> In fact I don't actually believe, they would be so crass to try this sort
> of marketing.
>
> There is no useful comment or other assistance, I have taken from posts
> from this contributor.
>
> I tried their demo once recently and it failed on their site!
>
> I do not wish to see this carry on any further.
>
> I vote to block this poster.
>
> Bernard Bailey
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