[Vtigercrm-developers] Vtiger 7 Features (preliminary list) (B?a?ej Pabiszczak)

[Conrado Maggi]

Hello Blazej,

I'm not a lawyer so please correct me if I'm wrong. Seems like Yetiforce
license is not compatible with Vtiger license.

Is this correct?

El jueves, 27 de octubre de 2016, Błażej Pabiszczak <
b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com> escribió:

> @Doug
>
> For many years you've been criticizing and yelling, but what have you done
> for the Vtiger community? I don’t know why you are so concerned about our
> forum [mailing list]... You've been there for the whole time, but I guess
> you failed to realize that the community moved to GitHub:
> https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/stargazers.
>
> Right now 327 people starred our project, and from what I see at
> http://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm only 32 people liked Vtiger. This
> month 12 people contributed to our project, do you know how many
> contributed to Vtiger? Open your eyes and start giving something, instead
> of just taking.
>
> @TimeZone
>
> If you find me so annoying why won't you block my email in your mail
> client? It'll take you 30 seconds. Vtiger team doesn't need your vote to
> block me on their mailing list. The problem with you and the other
> loudmouths is that you just keep on taking, but can't give anything. You
> say you got over 6 years of experience with Vtiger as far as writing
> scripts and apps is concerned, but tell me how much the Vtiger community
> has benefited on that? I searched far and wide and found nothing.
>
> YetiForce is Vtiger with 11k changes - instead of criticizing you should
> learn how to use it to your own advantage. For 2 years we’ve been uploading
> changes published by Vtiger, fixing them logic-wise, business-wise, and
> safety-wise, ensuring PSR and SensioLabs compatibility. Which of these
> changes have you uploaded to Vtiger? Have you uploaded security fixes to
> your clients’ systems, or do they still use systems full of critical
> security errors?
>
> @All
>
> I’m just like that and I won’t change. OpenSaaS/YetiForce team has helped
> Vtiger’s community a lot over the years. We created free modules, updated
> the language pack, replied to posts added by Polish people and helped users
> on this mailing list. We introduce many changes that can be easily moved to
> Vtiger and it depends on you how you want to benefit from our help. Some
> functionalities have been uploaded to code.vtiger.com [some users even
> deleted our license :/, you should start using CLA!!!] and we think that
> cooperation is a good solution for both projects.
>
> @VtigerTeam
>
> I have to admit you proved to be very patient by accepting all my posts,
> or posts from people associated with other projects [eg. coreBOS], all I
> want to achieve by posting here is making both projects develop equally
> dynamically. When you stop introducing changes it means that I don’t have
> these changes in my project either.
> The Vtiger community expects honesty, but you haven’t been very honest for
> the past couple of years and it might be good to fix this [you got nothing
> to lose]. It only depends on you how much you will use our experience, the
> elements we change right now should interest you, and you should use it. I
> understand that you don’t like many of our changes, but there are many
> other changes that you could add to your system.
>
> The problem is that you don’t develop CE version, but claim that you do.
> It would be better if you said it clearly just like Sugar did with CE
> version, and then no one would have any problems with that. I would stop
> taking part in discussions, because there would be no point doing that. But
> if you develop the system and we upload changes from your system to ours,
> we feel as a part of this system, in particular because we've given a lot.
> There are no people left on this list who would want to switch to
> YetiForce, because those who wanted  already did that a long time ago. I
> suppose that currently we have a larger community of developers than you
> do, so why are we here? In order to cooperate but on an equal basis.
>
> If I wanted to convince people to switch to our project I’d post on :
>
>    1. https://discussions.vtiger.com/
>    2. LinkedIn, groups associated with Vtiger, Open Source, CRM
>    [altogether 200k members]
>    3. Different forums and mailing lists that you don’t control
>
> We constantly learn and we’d rather use the knowledge for cooperation
> instead of competition.
> ---
> Z poważaniem / Regards
>
> *Błażej Pabiszczak*
> *Chief Executive Officer*
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com
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>
> W dniu 2016-10-26 22:00, TimeZone napisał(a):
>
> To the moderator of this list.
>
> You have my vote to remove access to this list for (B?a?ej Pabiszczak).
>
> It is tiresome to read yet another splattter from this spammer.
>
> Posting uninvited content with links to their own product is spamming as
> we all call it.
>
> We would not allow this type of post, if it was a SugarCRM or other
> loosely related CRM.
>
> In fact I don't actually believe, they would be so crass to try this sort
> of marketing.
>
> There is no useful comment or other assistance, I have taken from posts
> from this contributor.
>
> I tried their demo once recently and it failed on their site!
>
> I do not wish to see this carry on any further.
>
> I vote to block this poster.
>
> Bernard Bailey
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