[Vtigercrm-developers] app open source

Simone Travaglini simonetravaglini at gmail.com
Mon May 9 09:33:59 GMT 2016


Hi to all.
I want make a consideration: most of people of vtiger community are not
satisfied with vtiger team becouse is not sharing new feaure. But when I
asked if someone want invest in creating a community app not a big number
of "yes, i'm ready to invest". ;)

2016-05-05 14:20 GMT+02:00 Simone Travaglini <simonetravaglini at gmail.com>:

> I agree:
>
>  point1 is already done from myc template.
>
> Point 2 is the real challange and is related to UX
>
> 2016-05-05 14:13 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I might be confusing. Are we discussing about
>>
>> 1.  Using CRM in Mobile?
>> Or
>> 2.  Consuming CRM elements in Mobile?
>>
>> First is already almost done through commercial providers (Such as MYC),
>> but remaining to community.
>>
>> I am talking about 2nd option.   Good example,  using Facebook vs using
>> Fb mobile app.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know technically what is the best solution, but I think we have
>>> to focus on customer (user) perspective. UX have to drive us in choise. I
>>> think that use a CRM in desktop and in Mobile have big difference. So I
>>> think that a responsive template is a good solution (we give MYC template
>>> to all our customers!) but app could be an important improvement if done in
>>> the right way. App is not only for data consultation (in this case
>>> responsive is enought I think), but think about order entry, or other flow
>>> that are tipical of mobile use. App could give a better UX to vendors, or
>>> support team.
>>> So my proposal is to discuss first of all what are the main task an flow
>>> to manage in mobility?
>>> Then for technically resolution I want to hear more expert opinion!
>>>
>>> 2016-05-05 12:51 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alan
>>>>
>>>> So you say that all those features will be implemented in the CRM
>>>> itself with Responsive template?
>>>>
>>>> I know all those can be done through a web application. But I feel the
>>>> vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.
>>>>
>>>> What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser versus
>>>> mobile app
>>>> How about usability compare to native elements versus web elements
>>>>
>>>> In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of mobile
>>>> and backend(CRM).
>>>>
>>>> (Example, customer portal)
>>>>
>>>>   Front-end complexity is another factor when all features sitting in
>>>> the same app. We have to consider multi browser support here.
>>>>
>>>> I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to mobile app to
>>>> CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to satisfy basic needs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/05/16 05:05, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> HTML5 responsive templates means just using vtiger directly in
>>>>> browser? If so we will loose the power of mobile features, such as push
>>>>> notifications,
>>>>>
>>>>> not necessarily, there are notifications
>>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/
>>>>> and platform specific push notifications through various means. You
>>>>> could also use something like telegram as a messaging platform.
>>>>>
>>>>> camera
>>>>>
>>>>> nope, that should work fine with getusermedia
>>>>> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/getusermedia/intro/
>>>>>
>>>>> and voice.
>>>>>
>>>>> huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but I am not
>>>>> sure of the application for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have used those in different apps such as barcode scanner or
>>>>> delayed notifications
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hills - Technologywise <
>>>>> <richard at tw.co.nz>richard at tw.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my two cents, definitely no time to contribute in a big way
>>>>>> currently but... I have to say that I don't see the point in apps any more
>>>>>> for accessing websites. I would much rather see a good responsive template
>>>>>> developed possibly using html 5 to allow some work to be done without a
>>>>>> connection, though this is also not really that useful in todays
>>>>>> perma-connected world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger across a wider
>>>>>> range of devices would be brilliant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:02:58PM +0530, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Simone & Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The community app is essential. I have few concerns choosing the
>>>>>>> development platform
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   1. Native
>>>>>>>   2. Non-native (Cordova)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We are currently working with Cordova usign Ionic framework +
>>>>>>> Angular.
>>>>>>> Non-native means, it is developed using pure HTML5, CSS + Javascript
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Examples
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)
>>>>>>>   2. PhoneGap (Javascript enough)
>>>>>>>   3. React-native (an included native compiler)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Advantages
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native elements, such as IOs
>>>>>>> Tabs
>>>>>>>   and freedom of system calls
>>>>>>>   2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript can contribute.
>>>>>>> Cross
>>>>>>>   platform development is easier (Ios and Android only warranted)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward your comments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>>>>>>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes I agree
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2016-05-04 12:40 GMT+02:00 Alan Bell < <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
>>>>>>>> alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to be clear, you are talking about a mobile thing for phones and
>>>>>>>>> tablets?
>>>>>>>>> Personally I think that the way forward is a really really good
>>>>>>>>> fluid
>>>>>>>>> layout HTML5 interface, including offline ability, which would
>>>>>>>>> work cross
>>>>>>>>> platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>>>>> I think app for open source version is a need for most of us.
>>>>>>>>> So I want ask:
>>>>>>>>> 1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be relased or if you
>>>>>>>>> plan to
>>>>>>>>> relase closed app and when
>>>>>>>>> 2 - to community: if there is an interest in a large collaboration
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> community to create an open source app project. Could be an
>>>>>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>>>>>> make community live and share effort to a common goal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Simone Travaglini
>>>>>>>>> 328 5499846
>>>>>>>>> Linkedin: Simone Travaglini
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Simone Travaglini
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>>>>>> Richard Hills
>>>>>> TechnologyWise Ltd, Tauranga, NZ
>>>>>> richard at tw.co.nz
>>>>>> www.technologywise.co.nz
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