[Vtigercrm-developers] app open source

Simone Travaglini simonetravaglini at gmail.com
Thu May 5 12:20:11 GMT 2016 

I agree:

 point1 is already done from myc template.

Point 2 is the real challange and is related to UX

2016-05-05 14:13 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:

> Hi
>
> I might be confusing. Are we discussing about
>
> 1.  Using CRM in Mobile?
> Or
> 2.  Consuming CRM elements in Mobile?
>
> First is already almost done through commercial providers (Such as MYC),
> but remaining to community.
>
> I am talking about 2nd option.   Good example,  using Facebook vs using Fb
> mobile app.
>
>
> Thanks
> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Simone Travaglini <
> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know technically what is the best solution, but I think we have
>> to focus on customer (user) perspective. UX have to drive us in choise. I
>> think that use a CRM in desktop and in Mobile have big difference. So I
>> think that a responsive template is a good solution (we give MYC template
>> to all our customers!) but app could be an important improvement if done in
>> the right way. App is not only for data consultation (in this case
>> responsive is enought I think), but think about order entry, or other flow
>> that are tipical of mobile use. App could give a better UX to vendors, or
>> support team.
>> So my proposal is to discuss first of all what are the main task an flow
>> to manage in mobility?
>> Then for technically resolution I want to hear more expert opinion!
>>
>> 2016-05-05 12:51 GMT+02:00 Sutharsan Jeganathan <ajstharsan at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Alan
>>>
>>> So you say that all those features will be implemented in the CRM itself
>>> with Responsive template?
>>>
>>> I know all those can be done through a web application. But I feel the
>>> vtiger it self is already complex and huge enough.
>>>
>>> What about the performance factor comparing mobile browser versus mobile
>>> app
>>> How about usability compare to native elements versus web elements
>>>
>>> In an architecture perspective I would like a segmentation of mobile and
>>> backend(CRM).
>>>
>>> (Example, customer portal)
>>>
>>>   Front-end complexity is another factor when all features sitting in
>>> the same app. We have to consider multi browser support here.
>>>
>>> I feel there is a need of a different conceptual model to mobile app to
>>> CRM, while appreciating responsive templates to satisfy basic needs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/05/16 05:05, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> HTML5 responsive templates means just using vtiger directly in browser?
>>>> If so we will loose the power of mobile features, such as push
>>>> notifications,
>>>>
>>>> not necessarily, there are notifications
>>>> https://www.w3.org/TR/notifications/
>>>> and platform specific push notifications through various means. You
>>>> could also use something like telegram as a messaging platform.
>>>>
>>>> camera
>>>>
>>>> nope, that should work fine with getusermedia
>>>> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/getusermedia/intro/
>>>>
>>>> and voice.
>>>>
>>>> huh? what would you do with voice? you can get audio, but I am not sure
>>>> of the application for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have used those in different apps such as barcode scanner or delayed
>>>> notifications
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Richard Hills - Technologywise <
>>>> <richard at tw.co.nz>richard at tw.co.nz> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just my two cents, definitely no time to contribute in a big way
>>>>> currently but... I have to say that I don't see the point in apps any more
>>>>> for accessing websites. I would much rather see a good responsive template
>>>>> developed possibly using html 5 to allow some work to be done without a
>>>>> connection, though this is also not really that useful in todays
>>>>> perma-connected world.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever happens, a better way to work with vtiger across a wider
>>>>> range of devices would be brilliant.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 09:02:58PM +0530, Sutharsan Jeganathan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Simone & Alan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The community app is essential. I have few concerns choosing the
>>>>>> development platform
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   1. Native
>>>>>>   2. Non-native (Cordova)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are currently working with Cordova usign Ionic framework + Angular.
>>>>>> Non-native means, it is developed using pure HTML5, CSS + Javascript
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Examples
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   1. Ionic (Developer should understood Angular)
>>>>>>   2. PhoneGap (Javascript enough)
>>>>>>   3. React-native (an included native compiler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Advantages
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   1. Native : Comparably faster, using Native elements, such as IOs
>>>>>> Tabs
>>>>>>   and freedom of system calls
>>>>>>   2. Non-native : Anyone with HTML5 + Javascript can contribute.
>>>>>> Cross
>>>>>>   platform development is easier (Ios and Android only warranted)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward your comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sutharsan Jeganathan
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Simone Travaglini <
>>>>>> simonetravaglini at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes I agree
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-05-04 12:40 GMT+02:00 Alan Bell < <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>
>>>>>>> alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to be clear, you are talking about a mobile thing for phones and
>>>>>>>> tablets?
>>>>>>>> Personally I think that the way forward is a really really good
>>>>>>>> fluid
>>>>>>>> layout HTML5 interface, including offline ability, which would work
>>>>>>>> cross
>>>>>>>> platform on iOS/Android and Ubuntu Touch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/05/16 11:33, Simone Travaglini wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi to all,
>>>>>>>> I think app for open source version is a need for most of us.
>>>>>>>> So I want ask:
>>>>>>>> 1 - to Vtiger: if an open source app will be relased or if you plan
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> relase closed app and when
>>>>>>>> 2 - to community: if there is an interest in a large collaboration
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> community to create an open source app project. Could be an
>>>>>>>> opportunity to
>>>>>>>> make community live and share effort to a common goal.
>>>>>>>>
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