[Vtigercrm-developers] New free responsive template for vtiger 6 with installer

[Doug]

Chris,
If you want to learn about his condensing leadership style just go read the
yetti email list. Myself and a couple of others tried to talk him down from
the ledge but he refuses to listen.
He has made his own bed... He can lay in it.
On Aug 11, 2015 8:45 PM, "Hamono, Chris (DPC)" <Chris.Hamono at sa.gov.au>
wrote:

> It's hard not to be cynical isn't it.
>
> I wouldn't ask you to read through history but you have basically restated
> my own beliefs.
>
> Doug unfortunately just seems to take pot shots at people. Constructive
> criticism is a better tack.
>
> On the plus side for vtiger there is no obligation for them to run this
> forum yet they do.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com [mailto:
> vtigercrm-developers-bounces at lists.vtigercrm.com] On Behalf Of John Crisp
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 7:11 PM
> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] New free responsive template for
> vtiger 6 with installer
>
> On 11/08/15 04:25, Hamono, Chris (DPC) wrote:
>
> > I don't use Yetiforce myself and I seem to recall Blazej and I butting
> > heads in the past. But I don't think you are correct to "slag" on
> > yetiforce or Blazej.
> >
> > The very reason Yetiforce exists is because the vtiger developers do
> > make it difficult for other developers to contribute (I will say the
> > recent increase in releases has been very heartening).
> >
> >
>
> If you read the Yeti force list you'll have seen that despite best
> intentions originally by Yeti, Doug is about spot on right and just said it
> like it is.
>
> There's precious little to choose between the vTiger team and the Yeti
> force team. Both have their own agenda.
>
> Both develop a system for their paying customers, and those same paying
> customers are the only ones that they really listen too. By all means
> contribute fixes, but you don't get any real say in anything.
>
> The OS version is released as 'window dressing' so they can call
> themselves Open Source and look good. It's a hook to the paying version, no
> more and no less.
>
> That's their prerogative of course.
>
> And if you don't want to pay then all you can do is take what is offered
> and make the best of it. It's free. If you don't like it, have a refund :-)
>
> I do not believe that this was the real concept of Open Source, but it's a
> model that a lot of companies have adopted - I know of a lot more.
>
> The worst ones for me are the ones that load their web pages with meta
> tags like 'Open Source' just to get hits even, though when you get there
> the software is paid for only - vTiger and Yeti can't be accused of that
> however.
>
> >
> > As a developer I would welcome someone who takes the time to write an
> > in depth commentary on my work. Of course I may not agree with
> > everything (or anything) said but I would not abuse someone who felt
> > passionate enough to put their thoughts into such a structured  and
> thorough critique.
> >
> >
>
> Indeed, but with my cynical hat I believe that in reality his comments are
> just a sales and advertising effort....
>
> All IMHO of course.....
>
> B. Rgds
> John
>
>
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