[Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS

Mon Mar 31 13:24:29 GMT 2014

@John, Thanks for pushing us hard to improve collaboration with community
developers and take advantage of their contributions. We are making
progress on this. We improved developedrdocumentation through the new
community site <http://community.vtiger.com/help>, and have more exciting
things coming in the near future for community developers.

It is true we have our own agenda, which is to serve our customers and grow
our customers. But, we are fully aware that a strong Vtiger open source
will only add strength to our business, and not dent it.

@Maik,  We are releasing the latest code to the Sourceforge SVN every month
(sometimes on a weekly basis). We also chose a very liberal open source
license (Mozilla license) as opposed to GPL(SugarCRM is GPL), which
requires derivative works to be also open source.

@Andrew, are the lyrics to the video available somewhere?

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On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:

> You can test here:
>
> http://d.opensaas.pl/vte (this is old version, we update tommorow)
> admin/opensaas
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> and i send module on your email.
>
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
>
> 2014-03-30 20:35 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>:
>
>> Ok - that is of course quite fair.
>>
>> How do test the module? Can I download it somewhere - I only see a "buy"
>> button, which takes me to paypal
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Christian
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> Date: 30 March 2014 19:37
>> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support ::
>> coreBOS
>> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>>
>>
>> You can do what you want with our module for testing.
>> If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1 customer
>> (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.).
>> You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for every
>> customer and send us info about customer (we create internal license).
>>
>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>> M: +48.884999123
>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>  Ok - sounds exciting!
>>>
>>> I of course understands that there is a license-fee, but will it be
>>> closed or open source? I use a heavily modified version of vtiger (6) and
>>> generally need to be able to modify the modules I use.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>wrote:
>>>
>>>> We publish 10-15 modules in next week on our site.
>>>>
>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Błażej,
>>>>>
>>>>> Valid points.  Are those modules available somehow? Ie. can they be
>>>>> purchased, and would the license allow for me to edit the source?
>>>>>
>>>>> OSSMail looks very interesting but I need some other functionality
>>>>> also, which I could do myself.
>>>>>
>>>>> :) Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 March 2014 18:04, Pabiszczak, Błażej <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In my opinion you have done wrong. Why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - You use a ten-year architecture (from 6 months is new)
>>>>>>    - You create Vtiger fork (it takes a lot of people and a lot of
>>>>>>    time, How many programmers You have (3-5?)? You need 15 and a lot of money).
>>>>>>    - We have OSSMail (like yours coreBOSMail), which has more
>>>>>>    options and is 100% integrated with Vtiger (modifying only 3 system files
>>>>>>    in version 6.1 will not have to modify any).
>>>>>>    - LTS is expensive to maintain and slows the progression! (for
>>>>>>    large customers we offer SLAs for versions 5.4).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently we have 30 working modules for Vtiger 6. Our company began
>>>>>> to migrate to version 6 over 9 months ago! We understand your decisions,
>>>>>> but making a mistake that you do this on version 5.4 and not 6.0.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And what would happen if our common system was developed by Team
>>>>>> Vtiger (Vtiger 6), and companies like yours and my (&others), have joined
>>>>>> forces (how will work mail module, if we built it together with *VTIGER
>>>>>> TEAM*)?.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Together, we are able to offer more! Together with Vtiger Team! Many
>>>>>> companies do not understand how many loses does not work together!*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry for my EN :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree, in major part I am totally with you. There has been a LOT
>>>>>>> of debating going on around here before we took this step.
>>>>>>> I understand your programmers (I am one) and that is fine with me. I
>>>>>>> encourage you to continue to support VT6, that is the way to go. We are
>>>>>>> catering to the part of community and users who want to push VT5 a little
>>>>>>> further, we want to control our destiny.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> coreBOS WILL have something special, give us a little time, we just
>>>>>>> started :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>> TSolucio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> El 28/03/14 09:24, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Vtiger 5.4 is old architecture, none of our programmer does not
>>>>>>> want to return to it.
>>>>>>>  Does coreBOS have something special?
>>>>>>>  On your website, I only see the integration of roundcube, the rest
>>>>>>> of the links do not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>>  M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2014-03-27 17:24 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This post is to announce the creation of the coreBOS project.
>>>>>>>> coreBOS starts from the rich inheritance of vtiger CRM 5.4. with intention
>>>>>>>> to give support to the big user and developer base for 5.x.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During the birth of this project the first name that was given to
>>>>>>>> it was vt5LTS, borrowing the name from Ubuntu, that stands for vtiger CRM 5
>>>>>>>> Long Time Support, but we didn't want to conflict with vtiger name branding
>>>>>>>> nor create conflict in any way in the developer and user community. Also we
>>>>>>>> understand that we will quickly drift away from vtiger CRM line of action
>>>>>>>> and be something else, so we thought that the name didn't make justice to
>>>>>>>> all the potential we see in the project and where we want to take it. We
>>>>>>>> saw a near future where coreBOS would have it's own merits and reasons to
>>>>>>>> stand tall for it's own right so we gave it a name and started our
>>>>>>>> adventure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We aren't creating this project out of disrespect or spite, we do
>>>>>>>> not have a bad relation with the vtiger company nor with the community, we
>>>>>>>> plan to keep investing time in vtiger CRM 6 and future releases, although
>>>>>>>> it will be less than what we have done for the 5.x branch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fact I have to admit that I like a lot of things I see in vtiger
>>>>>>>> CRM 6 and will most probably downgrade some of them, I think vtiger is
>>>>>>>> going down the right track with VT6 and with the change in community
>>>>>>>> support of the past weeks (incredible!!).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For more information, please come to http://corebos.tsolucio.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We invite you to join us :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> TSolucio
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