<div dir="ltr">@John, Thanks for pushing us hard to improve collaboration with community developers and take advantage of their contributions. We are making progress on this. We improved developedrdocumentation through the <a href="http://community.vtiger.com/help">new community site</a>, and have more exciting things coming in the near future for community developers. <div>
<br></div><div>It is true we have our own agenda, which is to serve our customers and grow our customers. But, we are fully aware that a strong Vtiger open source will only add strength to our business, and not dent it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>@Maik, We are releasing the latest code to the Sourceforge SVN every month (sometimes on a weekly basis). We also chose a very liberal open source license (Mozilla license) as opposed to GPL(SugarCRM is GPL), which requires derivative works to be also open source. </div>
<div><br></div><div>@Andrew, are the lyrics to the video available somewhere? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Sreenivas Kanumuru<br>vtiger Team<div><div><br></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">You can test here: <div><br></div><div><a href="http://d.opensaas.pl/vte" target="_blank">http://d.opensaas.pl/vte</a> (this is old version, we update tommorow)<br></div><div>admin/opensaas</div><div><br></div>
<div>and i send module on your email.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><br clear="all"><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-30 20:35 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Ok - that is of course quite fair.<div><br></div><div>How do test the module? Can I download it somewhere - I only see a "buy" button, which takes me to paypal</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Christian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Pabiszczak, Błażej</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span><br>
Date: 30 March 2014 19:37<br>Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS<br>To: <a href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com" target="_blank">vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
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<br><div dir="ltr">You can do what you want with our module for testing. <div>If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1 customer (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.).</div><div>You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for every customer and send us info about customer (we create internal license). </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Ok - sounds exciting!<div><br></div><div>I of course understands that there is a license-fee, but will it be closed or open source? I use a heavily modified version of vtiger (6) and generally need to be able to modify the modules I use.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">We publish 10-15 modules in next week on our site.<div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div><br>
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<div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00 socialboostdk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" target="_blank">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Hi <span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Błażej,</span><div><br></div><div>Valid points. <span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Are those modules available somehow? Ie. can they be purchased, and would the license allow for me to edit the source?</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">OSSMail looks very interesting but I need some other functionality also, which I could do myself.</span><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">:) Thanks.</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 March 2014 18:04, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">In my opinion you have done wrong. Why?<div><ul><li>You use a ten-year architecture (from 6 months is new)<br></li><li>You create Vtiger fork (it takes a lot of people and a lot of time, How many programmers You have (3-5?)? You need 15 and a lot of money).<br>
</li><li>We have OSSMail (like yours coreBOSMail), which has more options and is 100% integrated with Vtiger (modifying only 3 system files in version 6.1 will not have to modify any).</li><li>LTS is expensive to maintain and slows the progression! (for large customers we offer SLAs for versions 5.4).</li>
</ul><div>Currently we have 30 working modules for Vtiger 6. Our company began to migrate to version 6 over 9 months ago! We understand your decisions, but making a mistake that you do this on version 5.4 and not 6.0.<br>
</div></div><div><br></div><div>And what would happen if our common system was developed by Team Vtiger (Vtiger 6), and companies like yours and my (&others), have joined forces (how will work mail module, if we built it together with <b>VTIGER TEAM</b>)?. </div>
<div><br></div><div><font color="#ff0000"><b>Together, we are able to offer more! Together with Vtiger Team! Many companies do not understand how many loses does not work together!</b></font><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<div><div><br></div><div><font color="#0000ff">Sorry for my EN :( </font></div><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div><div>M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Hi,<br>
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I agree, in major part I am totally with you. There has been a LOT
of debating going on around here before we took this step.<br>
I understand your programmers (I am one) and that is fine with me.
I encourage you to continue to support VT6, that is the way to go.
We are catering to the part of community and users who want to
push VT5 a little further, we want to control our destiny.<br>
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coreBOS WILL have something special, give us a little time, we
just started :-)<br>
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Joe<br>
TSolucio<br>
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El 28/03/14 09:24, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi
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<div>Vtiger 5.4 is old architecture, none of our programmer does
not want to return to it.<br>
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<div>Does <span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">coreBOS</span> have
something special?<br>
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<div>On your website, I only see the integration of roundcube,
the rest of the links do not work.</div>
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<div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
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M: <a href="tel:%2B48.884999123" value="+48884999123" target="_blank">+48.884999123</a><br>
E: <a href="mailto:b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl" target="_blank">b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2014-03-27 17:24 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@tsolucio.com" target="_blank">joe@tsolucio.com</a>></span>:<br>
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Hello,<br>
<br>
This post is to announce the creation of the coreBOS
project. coreBOS starts from the rich inheritance of
vtiger CRM 5.4. with intention to give support to the big
user and developer base for 5.x.<br>
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During the birth of this project the first name that was
given to it was vt5LTS, borrowing the name from Ubuntu,
that stands for vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support, but we
didn't want to conflict with vtiger name branding nor
create conflict in any way in the developer and user
community. Also we understand that we will quickly drift
away from vtiger CRM line of action and be something else,
so we thought that the name didn't make justice to all the
potential we see in the project and where we want to take
it. We saw a near future where coreBOS would have it's own
merits and reasons to stand tall for it's own right so we
gave it a name and started our adventure.<br>
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We aren't creating this project out of disrespect or
spite, we do not have a bad relation with the vtiger
company nor with the community, we plan to keep investing
time in vtiger CRM 6 and future releases, although it will
be less than what we have done for the 5.x branch.<br>
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In fact I have to admit that I like a lot of things I see
in vtiger CRM 6 and will most probably downgrade some of
them, I think vtiger is going down the right track with
VT6 and with the change in community support of the past
weeks (incredible!!).<br>
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For more information, please come to <a href="http://corebos.tsolucio.com/" target="_blank">http://corebos.tsolucio.com/</a><br>
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We invite you to join us :-)<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Joe<br>
TSolucio<br>
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