[Vtigercrm-developers] New Extensions Store! - Take a Tour

Thu Jul 3 13:12:36 GMT 2014

Stefan,

We plan to release 6.1 Validation build with Extensions Store on July 15th.
The Publisher Portal to publish apps to the store will also be available by
that time

Regards,
Sreenivas

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de> wrote:

> Hy Sreenivas,
>
> Thanks. This sounds thoughtful and secure together.
> When will you open the store for the developers?
>
> I think it will be good, if there will be many extension at the beginning
> of vt6.1
> But i'm sure you know and will work every minute on this. ;)
>
> Stefan
>
> (Please excuse the different formattings. I write on the iPAD)
>
> Am Montag, 30. Juni 2014 schrieb Sreenivas Kanumuru :
>
>> Stefan,
>>
>> *Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
>>> installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to
>>> allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big
>>> extensions.*
>>
>>
>> By default license will be locked to an installation. Developers can
>> choose to NOT lock the license to an installation (checkbox). If hardware
>> locking
>> is disable, users who copy the extension file manually to another
>> installation can use the extension (the extension should be installed via
>> the command line
>> console tool on the second machine)
>>
>> Currently, the login to the store is done automatically through an id
>> that is unique for each instance. So, it is not possible to login to store
>> with same user id
>> from different installations. We plan to relax this by allowing users to
>> signup and login to the store with their own chosen id. With this, they
>> will be able to login
>> to the store with same id from multiple installations. Once this is
>> there, we can provide the option of multiple installations for a single
>> purchase.
>>
>> The Colorizer module in the preview was only shown as an example in the
>> Store. While we have intention to add support for coloring records in a
>> list, such a
>> feature is not yet released. We would be happy to see the Colorizer
>> module in the Store.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sreenivas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Stefan Warnat <ich at stefanwarnat.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hy,
>>>
>>> This looks great. Additionally if you extend the API Framework in 6.1
>>> multiple times.
>>> Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple
>>> installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to
>>> allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big
>>> extensions.
>>> I don't want to bind my customers to hard with the licenses. In my view
>>> of the world, a too hard license agreement will create illegal movements.
>>>
>>> I'm a little bit confused, because in preview you have a module
>>> "Colorizer" which looks like my "Colorizer" module.
>>> How could I register for an account in this store? Nothing speaks
>>> against my modules for this store. I think it would fit greatly.
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado <comaggi at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sreenivas, Hi..
>>>>>
>>>>> Will be the marketplace available in  the on-demand version?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Conrado
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app stores,
>>>>>> and trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the revenue we generate from the
>>>>>> app store (25% of the app fee) is good, then that means developers will be
>>>>>> lot happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations require some
>>>>>> system file changes, which makes the extension non-compliant. That is
>>>>>> something we are working to address this and see more extensions listed.
>>>>>> However, we will not be able to solve this in 1 version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sreenivas Kanumuru
>>>>>> vtiger Team
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Direct: +91 96323-55656
>>>>>> Skype: skanumuru
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP <
>>>>>> info at siam-translations.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If clumsy user will mess system than developers should be able to
>>>>>>> help him. I suggest to create directory of qualified devs next to app
>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>> On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate revenue - just
>>>>>>> limiting existing functions could be controversial
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru <svk at vtiger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Holbok, Blazej,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We considered keeping the 'install from file' option in the UI, but
>>>>>>> felt it could lead to users installing unverified extensions that
>>>>>>> might damage the installation. We wanted to add one level of
>>>>>>> difficulty for installing such extensions to ensure that
>>>>>>> users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan if the command
>>>>>>> line tool becomes difficult for users to use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is that developers
>>>>>>> will not be able to protect their
>>>>>>> extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php files and tie
>>>>>>> it to specific MAC address )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *We expect that in the same way it will be solved.*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István <holbok at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Dear Vtiger Team and All other list members,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are several good examples how to organize module install
>>>>>>>>> manager. Please look at the Joomla! project solutions:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <joomla-vtiger.png>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This approach can be utilized by the vtiger project also.
>>>>>>>>> In the Joomla! project you can find a method to
>>>>>>>>> - install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger store)
>>>>>>>>> - install from package (this method was used in earlier vtiger
>>>>>>>>> version), the package can be placed in a directory or in a URL
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and there is a method to install extension by Discover.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For the vtiger - counting future demands - would be very useful:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install from vtiger store
>>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install from package
>>>>>>>>>    - possibility to install by bootstrap string (for developing
>>>>>>>>>    using vtlib API)
>>>>>>>>>    - or possibility to install by CLI
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And should be there a possibility to Update all earlier installed
>>>>>>>>> extensions.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not suggest to close any earlier used possibility to install
>>>>>>>>> extensions into vtiger.
>>>>>>>>> By my opinion the install from store possibility should be an
>>>>>>>>> extra over the earlier used methods but not a replacement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kindest regards:
>>>>>>>>> Istvan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> üdvözlettel:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Holbok István*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +3670-342-0900
>>>>>>>>> *e-mail:* holbok at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> *SkyPe:* holboki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  2014.06.23. 10:29 keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs to reduce the need to
>>>>>>>>> modify system files. We understand that is important for the success of the
>>>>>>>>> Store.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Blazej,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  *If you will not publish modules that modifying system files, we
>>>>>>>>>> are forced to create our own fork.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Console (command line tool) will allow the installation of such
>>>>>>>>> modules that are not listed on the store. It is a complementary tool that
>>>>>>>>> will be useful for developers and users who want to install extensions that
>>>>>>>>> are not yet published on the store. In essence, there are 2 ways to install
>>>>>>>>> extensions. first through the store (certainly more easier), and the other
>>>>>>>>> is through the Console. If we are finding that users are having difficulty
>>>>>>>>> with the Console, then we will try to provide a UI for the console (that is
>>>>>>>>> separate from the store).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Andrew,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *I understand that after migration from 6.0 to 6.1 custom modules
>>>>>>>>>> will not be migrated but i have to install 'em manually. It means that
>>>>>>>>>> database tables will be untouched. Is it correct?*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to 6.1 will leave custom
>>>>>>>>> modules untouched. They will need to be updated manually through the Store
>>>>>>>>> (possible only if the name matche) , or from outside the store  (through
>>>>>>>>> the Console).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   *Can I claim one extension to be published - email campaigns?
>>>>>>>>>> Vtiger really need it to make marketing guys happy and stick to one app
>>>>>>>>>> only. *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thanks for the suggestion. We are discussing internally on the
>>>>>>>>> On Demand features we can release to open source and support well. I expect
>>>>>>>>> we will be releasing a couple of extensions initially (Quickbooks, Magento
>>>>>>>>> connectors for example) and add more over time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Sreenivas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo Baranzoni <
>>>>>>>>> info at greenbitweb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I think that not allow modifyng system files in extensione store
>>>>>>>>>> was the only possible solution but vtiger needs to improve to ensure that
>>>>>>>>>> they are not necessary!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00 Pabiszczak, Błażej <
>>>>>>>>>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>   Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Even if we publish an extension, we will list similar
>>>>>>>>>>>> extensions published by other developers, as long as they meet the
>>>>>>>>>>>> guidelines (*not modifying system files*).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  If you will not publish modules that modifying system files,
>>>>>>>>>>> we are forced to create our own fork.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Z poważaniem / Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Błażej Pabiszczak
>>>>>>>>>>> M: +48.884999123
>>>>>>>>>>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
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