<div dir="ltr">Stefan,<div><br></div><div>We plan to release 6.1 Validation build with Extensions Store on July 15th. The Publisher Portal to publish apps to the store will also be available by that time</div><div><br></div>
<div>Regards,</div><div>Sreenivas</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Stefan Warnat <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ich@stefanwarnat.de" target="_blank">ich@stefanwarnat.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hy <font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Sreenivas,</span></font><div><font><span><br></span></font></div><div><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"></span><span>Thanks. This sounds </span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">thoughtful and secure together.</span></font></div>
<div><font><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"></span></font><span style="font-size:small">When will you open the store for the developers?</span></div><div><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></div>I think it will be good, if there will be many extension at the beginning of vt6.1<div>
But i'm sure you know and will work every minute on this. ;)<br><div><br></div><div><font><span>Stefan</span></font></div><div><font><span><br></span></font></div><div><font><span>(Please excuse the different formattings. I write on the iPAD)<br>
</span></font><div class=""><br>Am Montag, 30. Juni 2014 schrieb Sreenivas Kanumuru :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Stefan,<div>
<div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><i>Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big extensions.</i></span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>By default license will be locked to an installation. Developers can choose to NOT lock the license to an installation (checkbox). If hardware locking</div><div>is disable, users who copy the extension file manually to another installation can use the extension (the extension should be installed via the command line</div>
<div>console tool on the second machine)</div><div><br></div><div>Currently, the login to the store is done automatically through an id that is unique for each instance. So, it is not possible to login to store with same user id </div>
<div>from different installations. We plan to relax this by allowing users to signup and login to the store with their own chosen id. With this, they will be able to login</div><div>to the store with same id from multiple installations. Once this is there, we can provide the option of multiple installations for a single purchase. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The Colorizer module in the preview was only shown as an example in the Store. While we have intention to add support for coloring records in a list, such a </div><div>feature is not yet released. We would be happy to see the Colorizer module in the Store.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sreenivas</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Stefan Warnat <span dir="ltr"><<a>ich@stefanwarnat.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hy,<div><br></div><div>This looks great. Additionally if you extend the API Framework in 6.1 multiple times.</div><div>Did you allow developers to open up the license for multiple installations? My Customers could install every license on 2 systems to allow a development setup. Without this, it will be hard to create big extensions.</div>
<div>I don't want to bind my customers to hard with the licenses. In my view of the world, a too hard license agreement will create illegal movements.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm a little bit confused, because in preview you have a module "Colorizer" which looks like my "Colorizer" module.</div>
<div>How could I register for an account in this store? Nothing speaks against my modules for this store. I think it would fit greatly.</div><div><br></div><div>Stefan</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <span dir="ltr"><<a>svk@vtiger.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
<div dir="ltr">Yes, Conrado. The Store will be available in On Demand instances as well.<div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM, MAGGI Conrado <span dir="ltr"><<a>comaggi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Sreenivas, Hi..<br><br></div>Will be the marketplace available in the on-demand version? <br>
<br></div>Thanks,<br></div>Conrado<br><div><div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Sreenivas Kanumuru <span dir="ltr"><<a>svk@vtiger.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div>
<div dir="ltr">We love the experience of installing apps on the Mobile app stores, and trying to replicate that in Vtiger. If the revenue we generate from the app store (25% of the app fee) is good, then that means developers will be lot happier (with 75%) which is going to make us even more happier.<div>
<br></div><div>The main hurdle is that the framework API limitations require some system file changes, which makes the extension non-compliant. That is something we are working to address this and see more extensions listed. However, we will not be able to solve this in 1 version. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sreenivas</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>--<br>Sreenivas Kanumuru<br>vtiger Team<div><div><br></div><div>Direct: <a href="tel:%2B91%2096323-55656" value="+919632355656" target="_blank">+91 96323-55656</a><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 1:04 PM, SIAM Translations LLP <span dir="ltr"><<a>info@siam-translations.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div dir="auto"><div>If clumsy user will mess system than developers should be able to help him. I suggest to create directory of qualified devs next to app store. </div>
<div>On the other hand vtiger team got right to generate revenue - just limiting existing functions could be controversial<br><br><br><div><br></div></div><div><div><br>On 23 Jun 2014, at 17:10, Sreenivas Kanumuru <<a>svk@vtiger.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div>Hi Holbok, Blazej,<div><br></div><div>We considered keeping the 'install from file' option in the UI, but felt it could lead to users installing unverified extensions that</div>
<div>might damage the installation. We wanted to add one level of difficulty for installing such extensions to ensure that</div><div>users are aware of the risk. We will review this plan if the command line tool becomes difficult for users to use.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Note: The one limitation of the command line tool is that developers will not be able to protect their </div><div>extensions (Store offers this feature to encrypt php files and tie it to specific MAC address )</div>
</div></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sreenivas</div>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a>b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><b>We expect that in the same way it will be solved.</b><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br clear="all"><div><div><br></div><div><div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div><div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
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<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2014-06-23 11:04 GMT+02:00 Holbok István <span dir="ltr"><<a>holbok@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div><div>Dear Vtiger Team and All other list
members,<br>
<br>
There are several good examples how to organize module install
manager. Please look at the Joomla! project solutions:<br>
<br></div>
<joomla-vtiger.png><div><div><br>
<br>
This approach can be utilized by the vtiger project also.<br>
In the Joomla! project you can find a method to<br>
- install from the web (e.g. from the vtiger store)<br>
- install from package (this method was used in earlier vtiger
version), the package can be placed in a directory or in a URL<br>
<br>
and there is a method to install extension by Discover.<br>
<br>
For the vtiger - counting future demands - would be very useful:<br>
<ul>
<li>possibility to install from vtiger store</li>
<li>possibility to install from package</li>
<li>possibility to install by bootstrap string (for developing
using vtlib API)</li>
<li>or possibility to install by CLI<br>
</li>
</ul>
And should be there a possibility to Update all earlier installed
extensions.<br>
<br>
I do not suggest to close any earlier used possibility to install
extensions into vtiger. <br>
By my opinion the install from store possibility should be an
extra over the earlier used methods but not a replacement.<br>
<br>
Kindest regards:<br>
Istvan<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>üdvözlettel:<br>
<br>
<b>Holbok István</b><br>
<br>
<a href="tel:%2B3670-342-0900" value="+36703420900" target="_blank">+3670-342-0900</a><br>
<b>e-mail:</b> <a>holbok@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>SkyPe:</b> holboki<br>
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<a href="tel:2014.06.23.%2010" value="+12014062310" target="_blank">2014.06.23. 10</a>:29 keltezéssel, Sreenivas Kanumuru írta:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, Matteo. We will improve framework APIs to
reduce the need to modify system files. We understand that is
important for the success of the Store.
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div><br>
</div>
Blazej, </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><i>If
you will not publish modules that modifying system files,
we are forced to create our own fork.</i></blockquote>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Console (command line tool) will
allow the installation of such modules that are not listed
on the store. It is a complementary tool that will be useful
for developers and users who want to install extensions that
are not yet published on the store. In essence, there are 2
ways to install extensions. first through the store
(certainly more easier), and the other is through the
Console. If we are finding that users are having difficulty
with the Console, then we will try to provide a UI for the
console (that is separate from the store).<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Andrew,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<i>I understand that after migration from 6.0 to 6.1
custom modules will not be migrated but i have to
install 'em manually.<br>
It means that database tables will be untouched. Is it
correct?</i></blockquote>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Yes, upgrading framework from 6.0 to
6.1 will leave custom modules untouched. They will need to
be updated manually through the Store (possible only if the
name matche) , or from outside the store (through the
Console).</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<i>Can I claim one extension to be published - email
campaigns? Vtiger really need it to make marketing guys
happy and stick to one app only. </i></blockquote>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the suggestion. We are
discussing internally on the On Demand features we can
release to open source and support well. I expect we will be
releasing a couple of extensions initially (Quickbooks,
Magento connectors for example) and add more over time.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Regards,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Sreenivas</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Matteo Baranzoni <span dir="ltr"><<a>info@greenbitweb.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think that not allow modifyng system
files in extensione store was the only possible
solution but vtiger needs to improve to ensure that
they are not necessary!
<div> </div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2014-06-23 8:31 GMT+02:00
Pabiszczak, Błażej <span dir="ltr"><<a>b.pabiszczak@opensaas.pl</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Hi</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br>
</span></div>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#0000ff">Even if we publish
an extension, we will list similar
extensions published by other
developers, as long as they meet the
guidelines</font> (<b><u><font color="#ff0000">not modifying
system files</font></u></b>).</span></blockquote>
</div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If you will not publish modules that
modifying system files, we are forced to
create our own fork.<br>
</div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>Z poważaniem / Regards</div>
<div>Błażej Pabiszczak</div>
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