[Vtigercrm-developers] license comments
Pabiszczak, Błażej
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
Sat Apr 5 20:01:11 GMT 2014
Thank you.
Remember, it's not like your whole system, it's just a module.
We finish the translation of the license.
Z poważaniem / Regards
Błażej Pabiszczak
M: +48.884999123
E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
2014-03-31 1:02 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>:
> You have to be careful with this. Although most of the world works on
> "bona fides", not everybody does and you could have problems or pass on
> problems to somebody.
>
> For example, in Europe legislation (and US and probably the majority of
> the planet) if you do not say anything about your license, and do not
> license your creation, by default your intellectual property rights are
> COMPLETE, that means that it is distributed under the most restrictive
> copyright distribution of all; nobody can touch the code.
>
> IANAL, but I would really recommend you do not create yourself a license,
> use one of the many that already exist, they were created by lawyers and
> they know what they are doing (I hope :-) ). Also consult a lawyer to
> undertand the different licenses out there and pick one that you are
> comfortable with.
>
> Just my opinion
> Joe
> TSolucio
>
>
>
> El 30/03/14 20:27, Pabiszczak, Błażej escribió:
>
> We have no name for the license (just our license), tomorrow I will give
> licenses to translate and you send it in English. We have liberal views :]
>
> This is my translate :P
>
> You can do what you want with our module for testing. If You buy, You
>> can do what you want with code (1 license = 1 customer (you can have many
>> servers like test, prod, dev, lab etc.). You can sell our module for Yours
>> clients, but You need pay for every customer and send us info about
>> customer (we create internal license). You must leave information about the
>> author.
>
>
> The license is lifetime. Free access to update lasts for only a year,
>> after one year, the cost of renovation is 50% of the module.
>
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
>
> 2014-03-30 20:01 GMT+02:00 <
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>> 1. Re: vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support :: coreBOS (Joe Bordes)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 20:01:29 +0200
>> From: Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com>
>> To: vtigercrm-developers at lists.vtigercrm.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vtigercrm-developers] vtiger CRM 5 Long Time Support ::
>> coreBOS
>> Message-ID: <53385BF9.1060708 at tsolucio.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>>
>> Yes, if possible. Just curious...
>>
>>
>> El 30/03/14 19:55, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:
>> > Good question :P You wanna name of license (like GPL, VPL, etc)?
>> >
>> > Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> > B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> > M: +48.884999123
>> > E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> >
>> >
>> > 2014-03-30 19:44 GMT+02:00 Joe Bordes <joe at tsolucio.com
>> > <mailto:joe at tsolucio.com>>:
>> >
>> > What license is that?
>> >
>> > Joe
>> > TSolucio
>> >
>> >
>> > El 30/03/14 19:37, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej escribi?:
>> >> You can do what you want with our module for testing.
>> >> If You buy, You can do what you want with code (1 license = 1
>> >> customer (you can have many servers like test, prod, dev, lab
>> etc.).
>> >> You can sell our module for Yours clients, but You need pay for
>> >> every customer and send us info about customer (we create
>> >> internal license).
>> >>
>> >> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> >> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> >> M: +48.884999123
>> >> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2014-03-30 19:31 GMT+02:00 socialboostdk <socialboostdk at gmail.com
>> >> <mailto:socialboostdk at gmail.com>>:
>> >>
>> >> Ok - sounds exciting!
>> >>
>> >> I of course understands that there is a license-fee, but will
>> >> it be closed or open source? I use a heavily modified version
>> >> of vtiger (6) and generally need to be able to modify the
>> >> modules I use.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 30 March 2014 19:25, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
>> >> <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We publish 10-15 modules in next week on our site.
>> >>
>> >> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> >> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> >> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>> >> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl <mailto:
>> b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2014-03-29 22:42 GMT+01:00 socialboostdk
>> >> <socialboostdk at gmail.com <mailto:socialboostdk at gmail.com
>> >>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi B?az.ej,
>> >>
>> >> Valid points. Are those modules available somehow?
>> >> Ie. can they be purchased, and would the license
>> >> allow for me to edit the source?
>> >>
>> >> OSSMail looks very interesting but I need some other
>> >> functionality also, which I could do myself.
>> >>
>> >> :) Thanks.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 29 March 2014 18:04, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
>> >> <b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>> >> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In my opinion you have done wrong. Why?
>> >>
>> >> * You use a ten-year architecture (from 6
>> >> months is new)
>> >> * You create Vtiger fork (it takes a lot of
>> >> people and a lot of time, How many
>> >> programmers You have (3-5?)? You need 15 and
>> >> a lot of money).
>> >> * We have OSSMail (like
>> >> yours coreBOSMail), which has more options
>> >> and is 100% integrated with Vtiger (modifying
>> >> only 3 system files in version 6.1 will not
>> >> have to modify any).
>> >> * LTS is expensive to maintain and slows the
>> >> progression! (for large customers we offer
>> >> SLAs for versions 5.4).
>> >>
>> >> Currently we have 30 working modules for Vtiger
>> >> 6. Our company began to migrate to version 6 over
>> >> 9 months ago! We understand your decisions, but
>> >> making a mistake that you do this on version 5.4
>> >> and not 6.0.
>> >>
>> >> And what would happen if our common system was
>> >> developed by Team Vtiger (Vtiger 6), and
>> >> companies like yours and my (&others), have
>> >> joined forces (how will work mail module, if we
>> >> built it together with *VTIGER TEAM*)?.
>> >>
>> >> *Together, we are able to offer more! Together
>> >> with Vtiger Team! Many companies do not
>> >> understand how many loses does not work together!*
>> >>
>> >> Sorry for my EN :(
>> >>
>> >> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> >> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> >> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>> >> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>> >> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2014-03-29 16:32 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes
>> >> <joe at tsolucio.com <mailto:joe at tsolucio.com>>:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I agree, in major part I am totally with you.
>> >> There has been a LOT of debating going on
>> >> around here before we took this step.
>> >> I understand your programmers (I am one) and
>> >> that is fine with me. I encourage you to
>> >> continue to support VT6, that is the way to
>> >> go. We are catering to the part of community
>> >> and users who want to push VT5 a little
>> >> further, we want to control our destiny.
>> >>
>> >> coreBOS WILL have something special, give us
>> >> a little time, we just started :-)
>> >>
>> >> Joe
>> >> TSolucio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> El 28/03/14 09:24, Pabiszczak, B?az.ej
>> escribi?:
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> Vtiger 5.4 is old architecture, none of our
>> >>> programmer does not want to return to it.
>> >>> Does coreBOS have something special?
>> >>> On your website, I only see the integration
>> >>> of roundcube, the rest of the links do not
>> work.
>> >>>
>> >>> Z powaz.aniem / Regards
>> >>> B?az.ej Pabiszczak
>> >>> M: +48.884999123 <tel:%2B48.884999123>
>> >>> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>> >>> <mailto:b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2014-03-27 17:24 GMT+01:00 Joe Bordes
>> >>> <joe at tsolucio.com <mailto:joe at tsolucio.com>>:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hello,
>> >>>
>> >>> This post is to announce the creation of
>> >>> the coreBOS project. coreBOS starts from
>> >>> the rich inheritance of vtiger CRM 5.4.
>> >>> with intention to give support to the
>> >>> big user and developer base for 5.x.
>> >>>
>> >>> During the birth of this project the
>> >>> first name that was given to it was
>> >>> vt5LTS, borrowing the name from Ubuntu,
>> >>> that stands for vtiger CRM 5 Long Time
>> >>> Support, but we didn't want to conflict
>> >>> with vtiger name branding nor create
>> >>> conflict in any way in the developer and
>> >>> user community. Also we understand that
>> >>> we will quickly drift away from vtiger
>> >>> CRM line of action and be something
>> >>> else, so we thought that the name didn't
>> >>> make justice to all the potential we see
>> >>> in the project and where we want to take
>> >>> it. We saw a near future where coreBOS
>> >>> would have it's own merits and reasons
>> >>> to stand tall for it's own right so we
>> >>> gave it a name and started our adventure.
>> >>>
>> >>> We aren't creating this project out of
>> >>> disrespect or spite, we do not have a
>> >>> bad relation with the vtiger company nor
>> >>> with the community, we plan to keep
>> >>> investing time in vtiger CRM 6 and
>> >>> future releases, although it will be
>> >>> less than what we have done for the 5.x
>> >>> branch.
>> >>>
>> >>> In fact I have to admit that I like a
>> >>> lot of things I see in vtiger CRM 6 and
>> >>> will most probably downgrade some of
>> >>> them, I think vtiger is going down the
>> >>> right track with VT6 and with the change
>> >>> in community support of the past weeks
>> >>> (incredible!!).
>> >>>
>> >>> For more information, please come to
>> >>> http://corebos.tsolucio.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> We invite you to join us :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>> Joe
>> >>> TSolucio
>> >>>
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>> >>>
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