[Vtigercrm-developers] Cooperation
Sreenivas Kanumuru
svk at vtiger.com
Mon Feb 4 05:34:55 PST 2013
Hi Blazej,
Our QA team has started reviewing extensions that are in the pipeline. You
will hear back from us soon. I responded to other concerns below.
*Paid Partnership*
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You do not have to be a Vtiger Partner to get your extensions published on
our marketplace. As long as you are following the guidelines published
(link<https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Marketplace_Review_Guidelines>)
on your website, your extension will be reviewed and listed on the
marketplace. You can list paid as well as free extensions on the
marketplace. Currently, we do not charge a listing fee for paid extensions,
but we plan to apply a listing fee.
Our partner program has 2 levels
1. Resellers (Free - not listed on our website)
2. SI Partners (Paid - listed on our website)
SI Partner program is designed for companies which have in house developers
(like yours) who assist clients implement CRM solutions. By being a Vtiger
SI partner, the partner gets additional visibility by getting listed on our
partner page. We charge the annual partnership fee for this benefit. The
partner page only lists partners who are actively implementing Vtiger
solutions.
*Developer Documentation*
We are publishing updated documentation with Vtiger 6 -
link<https://wiki.vtiger.com/index.php/Vtiger_6_Developer_Guide>
*Community Participation*
As i listed on the previous email (Sub: Vtiger Forge), in the next 3
months, we are working on several initiatives to improve developer
experience with Vtiger. These cover both in-product (APIs, design) and
out-of-product (discussions, documentation) elements. In addition, we will
identify a community manager in the core team to improve collaboration.
*OSS PDF extension*
Both PDF Maker and OSS PDF are listed on the marketplace. We leave it to
the users to decide and install plugin that suits them. *
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PS: I just tried your demo. I failed to understand how you can export the
PDF of 1 ticket (when i tried the test template, it listed all the tickets
in a table). Please advise. You can email us directly to
mp-support at vtiger.com.
thanks,
Sreenivas
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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Pabiszczak, Błażej <
b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl> wrote:
>
> It is unfortunate that the vtigercrm-developers mailing list only sees
>> traffic from third party developers. This is the only developer mailing
>> list I'm on that the core developers don't participate -- and I don't mean
>> answering questions, I mean asking them, talking about upcoming features,
>> and taking advantage of the experience and perspective that other
>> programmers bring to the table.
>>
>
> "vtigercrm-developers mailing list" - in our opinion it works correctly.
> The problem is in questions commited on this list, most of them are the
> result of not knowing the basic documentation, or just applies to the
> improper subject, for example "An error during installation vtiger 5.3
> occures" - even simple fact that question is about old version should
> disqualify it.
>
> All our developers have been working feverishly to get Vtiger CRM 6
>> completed and released. Though our team has grown considerably in the past
>> year,
>> Vtiger 6 has taken all our energy and some more. We are also releasing a
>> security patch for Vtiger CRM 5.4 in February. As a result of this, our
>> efforts on
>>
>
> With all the respect, but you always have a lots of work to do. Basing on
> my almost two-yearly observations I can only assume that community and
> co-operation with them has the lowest priority for you (it is not including
> partnership which provides you profit)
>
>
>> *Connecting better with Developers*
>> We are working on several initiatives to make Vtiger more developer
>> friendly
>
>
> Programmists don't need new documentation, they need just actual one, even
> this pdf (
> https://www.vtiger.com/products/crm/help/5.2.0/VtigerCRM_5.2.0_Vtlib.pdf)
> document would be enough, if it would be expanded and updated on time. All
> of your energy you spend for creating new tools and even you didn't work
> with documentation, you published for developers - this situation will
> always cause problems.
>
> Programmists don't need new communication board, they just need answers on
> board actually existing. For many months on polish board was a lot of spam,
> which no one could deleted, and you didn't want to give us moderation
> permissions for that section. Actually adding new post need verification
> which causes that people don't write because they sometimes have to wait a
> few days! New board doesn't change anything, all what we need here is new
> way of cooperation betweend producer and user.
>
> Below is the list of our modules never published by you:
> OSS Import Export 7-08-2012 10 <+48708201210>:49
> OSS SMS API 7-09-2012 13 <+48709201213>:05
> OSS Corrected Invoice 7-09-2012 14 <+48709201214>:27
> OSS Correction Note 13-09-2012 <+4813092012> 08:45
> OSS Invoice Cost 13-09-2012 <+4813092012> 09:09
> OSS Map 20-08-2012 14:02
> OSS Booking Calendar 28-10-2012 09:44
> OSS Test Data 28-10-2012 09:45
> OSS Currency Update 28-10-2012 09:48
>
> All of these modules have new versions, new documentations and wasn't even
> tested by you !!! We have over a dozen of other modules, which we don't
> send to you because it is pointless, even they are very important for
> business solutions ( warehouse module, module to exchange documents in
> EDIFACT format, integrations with Google Apps). Actually we have over 50
> modules, and we are starting to rewrite them for SugarCRM.
>
> We also proposed you, that we will give module OSS PDF for the community
> and you, if you only add if to the VTiger`s standard version. Actual
> version of OSSPdf is probably the most universal module, which doesn't
> modify core system files and have a tremendous functionalities, for
> example:
>
> 1. It is working with almost every standard and additional VTiger module.
> 2. Allows to create infinite amount of templatest.
> 3. Allows to automatically save created Documents, and relate them to the
> record.
> 4. Allows to generate many template at once.
> 5. Has Bootstrap library built-in, and we also have working version for
> current VTiger 6 version
> 6. Allows to run any special/additional function created by
> users/developers without modificating source files.
> 7. and has hundreds of other functionalities.
>
> However you prefer to promote PDF Maker with is functionally limited,
> instead of make some correction in our module ( if you assume that some
> changes are necessary ) and give it to community. WOULDN`T IT PROVIDE
> BIGGER BENEFITS ?
>
> Test version OSS PDF:
> http://test.opensaas.pl/mariusz/vt54_1
> admin/admin
>
> For a few years on your Partners list was a Construction company, however
> we as a developing/programming company, which created more than 50
> modules, couln`t become your partner because we have to pay for it? Maybe
> it would be worth to consider cooperation with companies, which wants to
> give you a part of their work for good of the community.
>
> Nowadays we are the biggest producer of VTiger modules, and in our point
> of view, the co-operation between our companies is not existing, and there
> is nothing like community because you ignore them.
>
> --
>
> Z poważaniem / Regards
> Błażej Pabiszczak
> M: +48.884999123
> E: b.pabiszczak at opensaas.pl
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://www.vtiger.com/
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