[Vtigercrm-developers] gettext in V5

Sergio A. Kessler sergiokessler at gmail.com
Fri May 12 05:47:26 PDT 2006


yes, please, send it to this list...
(I do not like private messages)

but I need confirmation that the patch (ie. the work) will not end in
the floor...
(if the patch is simple to merge, that is)

/sak

On 5/11/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> Sergio,
> Mike Crowe has sended me latest version of his gettext patch, i can mail
> you that if you want.
>
>
> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> > I'm short on time, but I can give it a try this weekend,
> > but the patch enabling gettext will be accepted or is too late ?
> >
> > 1) the patch should be short
> > 2) the current translations can be mantained in the transition, I see
> > no problem in enabling gettext strings each by one
> >
> > regards,
> > /sak
> >
> > On 5/11/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sergio,
> >> do not miss understand (i know my english is poor),
> >> i'm not against gettext, if you have capabilitie to provide gettext
> >> support for vtiger crm 5 in short time, i provide french pack in pot
> >> format without any problem in same time.
> >> But i think before gettext integration, we have to ask to the
> >> translaters, to know their capabilities.
> >> Regards,
> >> Aïssa
> >>
> >> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> >>
> >>> aisa, is a lot more probably that you *gain* translators instead of
> >>> loosing them...
> >>> (I don't know how you came to that conclusion)
> >>>
> >>> don't be afraid of gettext, the day you know it, you will wonder why
> >>> this thing hasn't used before...
> >>>
> >>> gettext doesn't resolve the harcoded strings problems,
> >>> BUT it makes the task of mark a string to be tranlated SO easy, that's
> >>> is not even funny...
> >>>
> >>> all you have to do is to change something from:
> >>>
> >>> echo "harcoded string";
> >>>
> >>> to
> >>>
> >>> echo _("translatable string");
> >>>
> >>> then you run a script that does all the dirty work for you...
> >>> and voilé, you have all the diccionaries updated and sinchronized...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> ok,
> >>>> Translate on array is boring, but really easy, using tool like poedit...
> >>>> is another thing (not really difficult i agree).
> >>>> But i prefer translate on php files and have vtiger CRM 5 may be for
> >>>> june than wait 2 more months and have gettext.
> >>>> Gettext doesn't resolve all the harcode problems (please confim).
> >>>> And before make the change, we have to train/inform the translators,
> >>>> loose some translators (and lang so) during the change is not good.
> >>>> Aïssa
> >>>>
> >>>> Sergio A. Kessler a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> gettext is an order of magnitude easier to use for translators (than
> >>>>> an array based aproach) if you use poedit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.poedit.org/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and I do not want to mention that gettext produces and keep
> >>>>> sincronized the files to translate automagically...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /sak
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 5/10/06, Abos <webmaster at vtigercrmfrance.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>> this is a small report for today svn snapshot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Homepage : latest activities added layer appear (see screenshot), i
> >>>>>> think you know already.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tab marketing, subtab account & contact, if i add an task/activitie, the
> >>>>>> redirection goes to tab support, the good subtab. (very small problem)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tab "More information", when i translate close (for task/events) the
> >>>>>> table is not correctly displyed, miss the cell for close (X).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The compose email pop up, is just a little to small (need 50px weight more),
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Problem with ' in company field information (alway),
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When i send an email to a lead or contact, lead/contact description
> >>>>>> added to mail body. Very very very bad ! Imagine my comment, "fucking
> >>>>>> guy, dislike to work with him, bad debtor". Ouch !
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can't change invoices status, quotes /SO/PO stage on picklist settings
> >>>>>> (i think you just need time for quotes/SO/PO, but for the invoices, it's
> >>>>>> miss since 4.x)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Migration script alway break the install, i have make a test with a new
> >>>>>> and clean vtiger crm 4.2.3 database (without adding any data), only 4
> >>>>>> tables created : *actionmapping, announcement,  field_seq,
> >>>>>> profile2globalpermissions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *Brand question (i think to saint ?) why design the tiger pound to left
> >>>>>> on rss, calendar, email module ? The vtiger logo use a pount inclined to
> >>>>>> right.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Migration question :
> >>>>>> Why not provide migration script during install ? With user choice
> >>>>>> install/upgrade.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Loggin question : The logs make vtiger CRM slow, why not put loggin to
> >>>>>> WARN for stable version ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Adding 1 more field to calls/meetings for incoming/outgoing can be very
> >>>>>> good.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now the good things :)
> >>>>>> New really impressive design for the calendar, very very good !
> >>>>>> The quick create function can be a killer feature on vtiger 5 (time
> >>>>>> winning!!!)!
> >>>>>> The search engine is very cool, now we can search on entire system.
> >>>>>> The report module !!!! Ouch !!!! USABLE ! (Richie forgot what i have
> >>>>>> said about report module ;) )
> >>>>>> New real effort for translaters, thankkkksssssss, i am impatient to see
> >>>>>> vtiger crm 5 full french (and all french users too) !
> >>>>>> MSG to Richie, you say about i18n on forum: " Yes, we do need help.",
> >>>>>> what kind of help ? Harcode string feedback ? Moving harcode to lang
> >>>>>> file and give a patch ?... I'm ready.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> About gettext, the problem with gettext, is you can loose translaters,
> >>>>>> gettext is more difficult to use, but more efficient. We need a full
> >>>>>> translate of vtiger CRM 5 (not 6). So for now, it's the right decision.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Conclusion : vtiger crm 5 is on the right way, look good, smell good.
> >>>>>> And i'm really enthusiastic(not sure for this word)
> >>>>>> I hope the plug-ins with same quality.
> >>>>>> Aïssa,
> >>>>>> gone to write a news on vtiger france
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________




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