[Vtigercrm-developers] Is 4.x a mature version or?

[Mike Fedyk]

Per Jessen wrote:

>Mike Crowe wrote:
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>>3)  As you evaluate the CRM tool you want to use, evaluate the
>>community around the tool.  There are quite a few resources here
>>available to you, should you choose to do it.  Many people on this 
>>list are resources you can use if you get into a bind.
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>Well, that was one of my initial issues - most of the user/developer
>community seemed/seems to "live" in the webfora?  IMHO, that is a sign
>of something not quite mature.  (not in the people, in the project). 
>Maybe this is a personal thing, but no OSS I've ever worked with or
>contributed to used a webforum as the primary means of supporting the
>community.
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I completely agree with you.  I'll be blunt.  Any project that focuses 
on forums doesn't understand the community.

Luckily for all of us, the core team is learning and now the community 
is maintaining the 4.x releases.  This lets us all work on our strengths 
and have others help us in our weak areas.  In many cases people learn 
by example and those weak areas become stronger.

>>4)  Regarding the bug database, no argument.  However, my impression
>>is most of the users of the forums and mailing lists are working
>>despite these "bugs".  For me, my only bugs have been self-created
>>bugs.  Again, a little digging in the forums will probably yield
>>solutions to most of these issues.
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>That last sentence is worrying, TBH.  It just does not give me a very
>warm and fuzzy feeling :-( 
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>Was bugzilla ever suggested for bug management?
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With the 4.2.4 release we are starting long term maintenance of the 
"stable" release.  We're working on making it live up to what people 
expect from a stable release.

We are in the final stages of the setup of trac which is a bug database 
and SCM integrated together.

>>5)  Overall, the core vtiger team is a great bunch of guys doing their
>>best to build vtiger into a fantastic product.  
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>I have no doubts about that - I'm just trying to get a grip on how much
>effort we should expect to take on.  Customization yes, but it's the
>poor bug/patch management that seems to be a significant unknown.
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That is changing as we type.

We all have clients that depend on vtiger, so stabilizing 4.2.x is a top 
priority.

MikeF