[Vtigercrm-developers] Bug fix for Outlook plug in error "Invalid

[Tim Smith]

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On 8/30/06, Tim Smith <smith.timsmith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeri,
>
> Isn't it better to let the user decide how to handle middle names and how
> to handle spaces in the last name?
>
> This is especially important because some languages do not use spaces.  We
> need to make sure vtiger stays language independent.
>
> Even in English, you should allow users to enter data in vtiger and _know_
> that it will stay that way and transfer as expected into Outlook.  If
> Outlook is repository of record then a kludge in vtiger makes sense.  But if
> vtiger is your repository of record then you don't want code second guessing
> you.
>
> There are all sorts of problems but lets take an example of storing "John
> Doe III" in vtiger.  I would store "John" in first name and "Doe III" in
> last name.  Now if I mail merge from Outlook, I get something completely
> wrong.  What I wanted was first and last name... but in order to make the
> mail merge work I have to merge the middle name too.  However, Mr. "George
> Francis Fields" won't appreciate his middle name being used.
>
> Here is another issue.  Lets say I leverage the ol soap service to
> accomplish accessing contact records.  If I set the last name to "Jones III"
> then I would expect to get the same value back with I request the contact's
> data.
>
> My 2 cents...
>
> Tim
>
> On 8/30/06, Jeri John <jeri at vtiger.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Tim,
> >           Thanks for your feedbacks.
> >
> > This issue has been handled  in the following way.
> >
> > Vtiger doesn't have middle name which outlook has .
> >
> > During adding contacts to Outlook
> >
> > So We will split the last name into words(if more than one word exists).
> > The last word is assigned to the lastname field and all other words are
> > assigned to the middlename field
> >
> > During adding contacts and updating contacts in Vtiger
> >
> > If middle name is available in Outlook we will join middlename and
> > lastname and assign to lastname field
> > If middlename is empty and lastname is available we will assign the
> > lastname to the lastname field
> > If middle name and lastname is empty we will assign the firstname to the
> > lastname field as lastname is mandatory in vtigerCRM.
> >
> > ---- On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 *Tim Smith <smith.timsmith at gmail.com>* wrote
> > ----
> >
> > I just posted a bug fix for the Outlook plug in error "Invalid return
> > value from vTiger CRM" on the forum.
> > http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=31365#31365
> >
> >
> > Vtiger doesn't have a middle name field and the bug occurred in trying
> > to parse the middle name out.  I would like to see the logic for
> > determining what a middle name is extracted from vtigerolservice.php and
> > moved to the outlook plug in.
> >
> > Reasons:
> > 1. Users are prevented from putting spaces in last names.
> > 2. Middle name problems are specific to Outlook.
> > 3. If it is decided that we should have middle names then add a middle
> > name field.
> >
> > This is my proposed change:
> > 1. Remove the support for "middlename" from vtigerolservice.php
> > 2. Add a setting in the Outlook preference for where to store the middle
> > name.  There will be three selections.  "Do not store middle name", "Store
> > middle name in the First Name field", "Store middle name in the Last Name
> > field".
> >
> > Though unrelated, I would also like to:
> >
> >    1. Allow attaching emails to Leads and Opportunities.
> >    2. Create an install using Setup2Go or Installer2Go (
> >    http://www.dev4pc.com/) which is a free installation program.
> >    This would allow anyone to create an install script.
> >    3. Launch a configuration UI at the end of the install process so
> >    the user will be prompted for their username/password/url.  Let this be
> >    defaulted through an ini file included in the install script.  Example:
> >    username=%windowslogin%; password=; url=
> >    http://www.mycompany.com/vtiger/
> >    4. Check if the plug in is loaded before uninstalling.
> >    5. Automatically connect to the vtiger server.  e.g. Don't require
> >    logging in first.  If they click on the contacts folder and click Sync, then
> >    attempt to login and tell them if there is a problem.
> >
> > If we can get a consensus then I will make the changes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
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