See this link for more information: <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=wn5sXG8bEAcC&dq=languages+that+don%2527t+use+spaces+between+words+such+as+Japanese&pg=PA697&ots=J_bDt2TeTA&sig=V7GXLzZlDmmAreWZRj7djFz0x-I&prev=http://www.google.com/search%253Fhs%253D0D%2526hl%253Den%2526lr%253D%2526safe%253Doff%2526client%253Dfirefox-a%2526rls%253Dorg.mozilla%25253Aen-US%25253Aofficial%2526q%253Dexample%252Bof%252Bjapanese%252Blanguages%252Bthat%252Bdon%2527t%252Buse%252Bspaces%2526btnG%253DSearch&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1">
Japanese doesn't use spaces</a><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/30/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Tim Smith</b> <<a href="mailto:smith.timsmith@gmail.com">smith.timsmith@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Hi Jeri,<br><br>Isn't it better to let the user decide how to handle middle names and how to handle spaces in the last name?<br><br>This is especially important because some languages do not use spaces. We need to make sure vtiger stays language independent.
<br><br>Even in English, you should allow users to enter data in vtiger and _know_ that it will stay that way and transfer as expected into Outlook. If Outlook is repository of record then a kludge in vtiger makes sense. But if vtiger is your repository of record then you don't want code second guessing you.
<br><br>There are all sorts of problems but lets take an example of storing "John Doe III" in vtiger. I would store "John" in first name and "Doe III" in last name. Now if I mail merge from Outlook, I get something completely wrong. What I wanted was first and last name... but in order to make the mail merge work I have to merge the middle name too. However, Mr. "George Francis Fields" won't appreciate his middle name being used.
<br><br>Here is another issue. Lets say I leverage the ol soap service to accomplish accessing contact records. If I set the last name to "Jones III" then I would expect to get the same value back with I request the contact's data.
<br><br>My 2 cents...<br></div><div><span class="sg"><br>Tim<br><br></span></div><div><div></div><div><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/30/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jeri John</b> <<a href="mailto:jeri@vtiger.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
jeri@vtiger.com</a>> wrote:</span></span></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div></div><div><span class="q">Hello Tim,<br> Thanks for your feedbacks.<br><br>This issue has been handled in the following way.<br><br>Vtiger doesn't have middle name which outlook has .<br><br>During adding contacts to Outlook
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<br>So We will split the last name into words(if more than one word exists).<br>The last word is assigned to the lastname field and all other words are assigned to the middlename field<br><br>During adding contacts and updating contacts in Vtiger
<br><br>If middle name is available in Outlook we will join middlename and lastname and assign to lastname field <br>If middlename is empty and lastname is available we will assign the lastname to the lastname field<br>If middle name and lastname is empty we will assign the firstname to the lastname field as lastname is mandatory in vtigerCRM.
<br><br></span></div><div><span class="q">---- On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 <b>Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:smith.timsmith@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">smith.timsmith@gmail.com
</a>></b> wrote ---- <br><br><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(160, 154, 255); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I just posted a bug fix for the Outlook plug in error "Invalid return value from vTiger CRM" on the forum.<br><a href="http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=31365#31365" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://forums.vtiger.com/viewtopic.php?p=31365#31365
</a><br><br><br><span>Vtiger doesn't have a middle name field and the bug occurred in trying to parse the middle name out. </span>I would like to see the logic for determining what a middle name is extracted from
<span>vtigerolservice.php and moved to the outlook plug in.<br><br>Reasons:<br>1. Users are prevented from putting spaces in last names.<br>2. Middle name problems are specific to Outlook.<br>3. If it is decided that we should have middle names then add a middle name field.
<br><br>This is my proposed change:<br>1. Remove the support for "middlename" from </span><span>vtigerolservice.php<br>2. Add a setting in the Outlook preference for where to store the middle name. There will be three selections. "Do not store middle name", "Store middle name in the First Name field", "Store middle name in the Last Name field".
<br><br>Though unrelated, I would also like to:<br></span><ol><li><span>Allow attaching emails to Leads and Opportunities.</span></li><li><span>Create an install using Setup2Go or Installer2Go (
</span><span><a href="http://www.dev4pc.com/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.dev4pc.com/</a>) </span><span>which is a free installation program. This would allow anyone to create an install script.
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</li><li><span>Launch a configuration UI at the end of the install process so the user will be prompted for their username/password/url. Let this be defaulted through an ini file included in the install script. Example: username=%windowslogin%; password=; url=
<a href="http://www.mycompany.com/vtiger/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.mycompany.com/vtiger/</a></span></li><li><span>Check if the plug in is loaded before uninstalling.
<br></span></li><li><span>Automatically connect to the vtiger server.
e.g. Don't require logging in first. If they click on the contacts folder and click Sync, then attempt to login and tell them if there is a problem.</span></li></ol><span>If we can get a consensus then I will make the changes.
<br><br>Regards,<br>Tim<br><br></span>
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