[Vtigercrm-developers] 6.5.0 Release Update

Sreenivas Kanumuru svk at vtiger.com
Wed Jun 29 03:25:57 GMT 2016

Any assumption that customers will come to our cloud service if we do not
improve our open source product is ill-informed. It would hold some water,
if vtiger is the only open source product out there, and our cloud solution
is the only cloud service out there. There are dozens if not hundreds of
open source variants of open source CRM products. And, there are dozens, if
not hundreds of variants of cloud based CRM products.

As i mentioned previously, our cloud business's success is based on open
source success and will continue to do so (unless we are ready to spend
millions of dollars in advertising). We understand that, and our actions to
improve open source stem from that. We will continue to make Vtiger open
source better.

When i see comments calling for improvement in open source, i see 2 things

1. Features and Usability (UI) - With 6.0 release 20,000 hours of work has
gone into enhancements of the open source product that have been
documented. 6.5 release that is upcoming will have support for new PHP
version to improve performance

2. Process (collaboration) - We made some progress in collaboration with
the move to code.vtiger.com.


On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Garry Brighton <garryatbrighton at gmail.com>

> Clear enough... disgusting approach of vtiger uncovered...
> Obviously vtiger ondemand generating enough to handle excellent
> development of both their versions, but that's not a plan....
> Vtiger internal development resources (OS) is a set to NOT create progress
> as this will feed competitors who is every single developer here.
> They go money from onDemand, and they don't wanna lose it. This is the
> only direction they wanna grow.
> The only exception is fast development of poor extension store from where
> Vtiger dream to get additional coins and code of modules what they use for
> own internal stuff. So, it kinda rapping... isn't it? How you feel? How
> long you will be dreaming about improvement here? How long the same subject
> is discussed here?
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Błażej Pabiszczak <
> b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com> wrote:
>> It's amazing how much you can discuss, how many people participate in
>> that, and how huge the leader of the project is, and despite all that, for
>> the past 2 years barely anything has been done. The majority of the people
>> who are still on the list are companies that create commercial modules, for
>> whom changes [especially the significant ones] are inconvenient, because
>> they will require module fixes. For those who gain profit from the lack of
>> features no changes is great news, for Vtiger users - not so much.
>> The vision of Vtiger 7 appearing in Q2/2017 will be postponed a few
>> times, and to make it even worse, nobody knows what it will include,
>> whether or not the final effect is worth the wait [time will tell]. At the
>> moment, Vtiger as the project's leader isn't really involved, and this
>> can't work in the long run, especially if people want to treat Vtiger's
>> development as part of their business, and not just a toy.
>> On one hand I'm happy with what's happening [no core development,
>> hundreds of missing functionalities substituted by ill-considered expensive
>> modules]; on the other hand I know that it will also negatively impact
>> everyone, because Vtiger and SugarCRM influence the way the entire open
>> source CRM community is perceived. Compare the development of these systems
>> within the last 4 weeks:
>>    1.
>>    Vtiger: https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/vtiger/pulse/monthly
>>    2.
>>    YetiForce:
>>    https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/pulse/monthly
>>    3.
>>    coreBOS: https://github.com/tsolucio/corebos/pulse/monthly
>>    4.
>>    EPESI: https://github.com/Telaxus/EPESI/pulse/monthly
>>    5.
>>    SuiteCRM: https://github.com/salesagility/SuiteCRM/pulse/monthly
>>    6.
>>    SugarCRML https://github.com/sugarcrm/sugarcrm_dev/pulse/monthly
>> Looking at this only you can figure out how many people are involved in
>> these systems, how huge the communities are...you can only see the last
>> month's work, but the situation has been similar for all these systems for
>> the past year. I watch these [and many more] projects all the time to learn
>> from them as much as I can. What I can see is the fact that open source is
>> not doing well, there are many small projects, and each of them takes away
>> valuable part of the community. Additionally, there's a bunch of people and
>> companies who just want to take, and give nothing in return.
>> If projects like coreBOS, EPESI, YetiForce, and Vtiger were merged, we
>> would be in a completely different place now, and what we could achieve
>> would be bigger and better than any given project.
>> PS. Congrats on the upcoming version 6.5 that doesn't patch any critical
>> security errors in Vtiger and client portal :D Each new release keeps
>> surprising me more and more, great job ;).
>> ---
>> Z poważaniem / Regards
>> *Błażej Pabiszczak*
>> *Chief Executive Officer*
>> M: +48.884999123
>> E: b.pabiszczak at yetiforce.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://www.vtiger.com/
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