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<p> Hi<br>
<br>
I will add my two cents, HTH.<br>
<br>
I will do that by referencing the elephant in the room that no one
seems to talk about: sales and marketing<br>
<br>
This all boils down to one fact: everyone on this list is leaching
vtiger CRM's name and marketing efforts.<br>
<br>
It isn't about the software, sincerely, we ALL do way too many
things. The market segment is completely saturated. Your clients
want solutions to their problems, not feature after feature. Give
them results, answer their questions quickly and cover their needs
at a reasonable price and they won't care what the name of the
software is. But, how do you start proving you can do that?
Selling it!<br>
<br>
You want to start a new fork or join one of the many other forks?
(or some other project; there are incredible tools out there that
are even better than vtiger, yeti, coreBOS and all the others
together) Start by selling it, create a sales force and make
noise. Then you won't care about this list anymore.<br>
<br>
So, since it is all about sales and not the software, either just
roll with the crumbs you get or move.<br>
<br>
Curious to see how vtiger answered once other names starting
appearing. Just saying...<br>
<br>
You are all more than welcome to ask any questions you may have
about coreBOS on our community channels.<br>
<br>
Have fun!</p>
<p>Joe<br>
TSolucio</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/7/22 2:03, Rubén A. Estrada
Orozco wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks for sharing your point of view Mariusz. I
appreciate it.
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<div>I took some time to look into the demo. I saw you can edit
pdf templates in the configuration but I couldn't figure out
how to generate a PDF, say, from a quote. </div>
<div>I also couldn't find email templates (I assume they must be
somewhere there, but couldn't find them).</div>
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<div>What about reports? I see graphs but not tabular reports.</div>
<div>What about a mobile app?</div>
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<div>Also, for everyone who has been following vtiger for a
long time, do you think the current status of vtiger open
source is "normal"? I remember once Alan Lord said that Vtiger
has periods of absence but then they have bursts of constant
work. As far as I remember, this has been the longest period
without input from Vtiger's staff. It even surprises me that
they have not even said a word in this specific thread. Do you
think they are close to killing/abandoning the open source
project?</div>
<div>I wasn't here when vtiger forked sugar. But do you think
vtiger is doing what sugar did? There are things that I think
should worry us, like php 8 compatibility and the use of years
long abandoned libraries (and no composer).</div>
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<div>Have you guys considered any other alternatives such as
corebos, vtenext, suitecrm... etc?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 2:15
PM Mariusz Krzaczkowski | YetiForce S.A. <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Yetiforce has Limited with Data in the
Community version?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">There is only one version of the yetiforce
system, only open source.<br>
No limits, no restrictions, only registration requirement</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Using Community we could buy extensiones or
pluggins and use into the community version?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I don't know if I understand the question<br>
with your version you can do whatever you want, just not
to break the license terms.<br>
You can install and use any add-ons.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Marius</div>
<div dir="ltr">Yetiforce has Limited with Data in
the Community version?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Using Community we could buy
extensiones or pluggins and use into the
community version?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Regards</div>
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<div>On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 03:33:43 PM CST,
Mariusz Krzaczkowski | YetiForce S.A. <<a
href="mailto:m.krzaczkowski@yetiforce.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p>Hello,<br>
At the request of "<a
href="mailto:rulo@simplesistemas.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">Rubén Alberto
Estrada Orozco</a>" I am writing this
e-mail. This is just my point of view of
the current situation.</p>
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0.4em;border-left:2px solid
rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>I've looked at YetiForce a couple of
times (not massively in-depth) and to be
honest if it had EmailMaker and PDFMaker
(from Its4You team) </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Our system has similar / alternative
functionalities, I do not know if they
have 100% the same functionalities but
fulfill the same functions.</p>
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0.4em;border-left:2px solid
rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>that we basically install it in all our
new CRMs by default now. So to switch to
something that doesn't have the same
functionality is much harder to sell to
clients. (even if behind the scenes its
10x better!)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>We added them to the system because these
are the basic mechanisms that the system
should have.</p>
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<p>Hmmm, hadn't seen that before –
checking out the licence for the
software says this :<br>
Data used for registration must be true.
All provided registration information,
including the company's name, can be
used by YetiForce Sp. z o.o. (Ltd.) for
marketing purposes | (i.e. preparation
of statistics, publication on the
website).<br>
Not sure how I feel about having to
provide this information for open-source
software.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Thanks to this, we can better understand
which companies / countries / industries
use our system.<br>
This helps us determine what to expand in
the system first, and more.<br>
It may be strange for some people, but
this is something in return for our work,
we give a great system for free and we
only want data that is public anyway.<br>
There is nothing confidential there.</p>
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<p>My main concern then becomes that we
cannot guarantee that the software will
work – ONLY if Yetiforce accept the
registration, and what happens if the
project gets abandoned? Can it be
registered without Yetiforce servers??</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Don't worry about this because:<br>
- no registration does not block CRM<br>
- our server is not obligatory for
registration<br>
- offline registration can be made when
someone does not have Internet on the
server<br>
- We do not plan to abandon the project,
we invest a lot of money / time in it, so
why should we abandon it?<br>
- currently the company has changed into a
joint-stock company and we go public, this
is not what the company that wants to
abandon the project does<br>
- from version 6.2 there is a new
simplified license, <a
href="https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/blob/developer/licenses/LicenseEN.txt"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/blob/developer/licenses/LicenseEN.txt</a> <br>
- Remember this Open Source together we
can do more</p>
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<p>A good point could be to create a
Community Contributed version of Vtiger.
Something that stays true to the
original version but accepts small
independent contributions and bug
support.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It will not work, I thought similarly a
few years ago. Our system started to be
completely different from vtiger.<br>
We had to make a lot of changes to make
the system more efficient and flexible.<br>
What made it different from the original
vtiger is a natural evolution.<br>
Every developing system does it, otherwise
it dies.</p>
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<p>My biggest fear is that if Composer
support is not introduced soon, the
software will neither be upgradeable nor
usable at a professional level.</p>
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<p>It was our first big step, this change
was painful because it required updating
many libraries.<br>
And some of them are not supported /
developed / safe anymore, so we had to
replace them with newer ones.<br>
This is proof that vtiger does not care
about Open Source and security.<br>
Any serious project uses the
centralization of libraries otherwise it
is impossible to control them.<br>
The development is so fast and there are
so many changes in PHP and libraries that
it necessitates continuous development of
the project.<br>
Composer has been around since 2012 and we
already have 2022, think about it.</p>
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<p>For me Workflow Designer from Redoo
networks is crucial.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>We have a lot of new and improved
mechanisms that work similarly or even
better than the "Workflow Designer".<br>
I do not know what there is that is not
with us, it would require a careful
comparison.</p>
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<p>This is what is needed – however I am
realistic in that either the whole (or
majority of) vTiger open-source
community needs to migrate to a
Community version OR it just becomes
another fork.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>There are many forks, vtiger is a fork
too.<br>
Many of them have died or are barely
alive.<br>
<span style="text-decoration:underline">Without
a strong / active community or someone
who lives on the project, there is no
future.</span></p>
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<p>vTiger themselves clearly don't' want
to implement the functionality that
we're all asking for, as they have no
business need to – ultimately they are
selling their own vTiger version that
doesn't have/need to e.g. use Composer
unless they want it to.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>We used to try to talk to the vtiger team
to join forces and create a strong / safe
/ modern design but they weren't
interested, they don't need anybody to
help.<br>
That's why we made a fork and we don't
regret it, it was the best decision.<br>
If we had stayed with them we wouldn't
have gotten as far as we are now, they
were limiting ours every step of the way
by creating additions, they didn't want
help developing the engine to make it more
flexible.</p>
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<p>So where does that leave us? Stuck
between a rock and a hard place – no-one
will migrate unless everyone else
migrates...so who goes first?<br>
And then whose in charge of the new
community version? Whoever setups a repo
in GitHub first?<br>
The ideal solution in my eyes would be
to have a body of people responsible for
driving the direction of the project,
who represent the community, and are
responsible for managing the
pull-requests etc. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Your decision, you can stay and wait for
a better tomorrow or go ahead and take the
project into your own hands.</p>
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rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>I know there was an attempt to fork
vtiger a few years back. Later it was
decided to stay with vtiger open source.
Because there were too many similar CRMs
already in the market already including
Yeti and suite. Anyway the Open Source
progress is very slow.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>It all depends on the society and the
project manager, choose the best one.<br>
It is known that changes are painful at
the beginning, you have to look where we
will be in a month / year / years, not one
day.<br>
If we thought so, we would stand still or
even move backwards because today the pace
of technology development is enormous.<br>
I remember vtiger 11 years ago, when I
started working, they tried to take care
of open source development now it's gone.</p>
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0.4em;border-left:2px solid
rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>The infrastructure roadmap should be
considered on the other side, which is
seriously diverted to cloud at the
moment. </p>
</blockquote>
<p>Sad but true, and the same for years</p>
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0.4em;border-left:2px solid
rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>Developing a support system using
modern stacks such as MERN or MEAN or
using PHP frameworks such as Phalcon or
Laravel becomes relatively easier than
forking and evolving a monolithic. So
we have to consider how to contribute to
an open source project efficiently to
meet the future.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Big words, requiring a lot of work, the
question of who will do it, there are few
willing ...</p>
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0.4em;border-left:2px solid
rgb(16,16,255);margin:0px">
<p>I suggest, separating the frontend and
backend, similar to the Magento (Now
Adobe commerce) PWA storefront, would be
the best approach to migrate to modern
platforms. Vtiger commercial may derive
the benefits from this approach.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>You can see that it does not matter for
vtiger, they do not need it, their cloud
solutions require dedicated solutions and
integrated with their profit model.<br>
I agree with you the separation of
frontend and backend, only that it
requires changes of the entire
architecture and no one sees business
bones in it.<br>
This is expensive with an existing engine
and an upgrade would be painful.<br>
Business sees it differently, unless you
have generous sponsors.</p>
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you choose?"</em></p>
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dniu 2022-07-22 20:01, Angelo Paglialonga
napisał(a):</p>
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<div>Hi Martin,
<div>we could start with a GitHub
repository merging fixes for current
bugs, so that our businesses don't
get too affected from these periods
of "silence" from vtiger team.</div>
<div>Who would be comfortable with
this?</div>
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Angelo
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vTiger CRM ad
alto ROI.</strong><br>
<br>
<strong>Telefono:
338.6077866</strong></div>
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<div>Il giorno 18 lug 2022, alle
ore 15:43, Martin Allen <<a
href="mailto:martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk</a>>
ha scritto:</div>
<br>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>This
is what is needed –
however I am realistic
in that either the whole
(or majority of) vTiger
open-source community
needs to migrate to a
Community version OR it
just becomes<span> </span><em>another</em><span> </span>fork.<span> </span></span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>Like
I said previously
without the
functionality of some
key plugins, we wouldn't
migrate (unless we found
a client willing to pay
for us to develop our
own version of it in a
new CRM!)<span> </span><br>
<br>
vTiger themselves
clearly don't' want to
implement the
functionality that we're
all asking for, as they
have no business need to
– ultimately they are
selling their own vTiger
version that doesn't
have/need to e.g. use
Composer unless they
want it to.</span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>So
where does that leave
us? Stuck between a rock
and a hard place –
no-one will migrate
unless everyone else
migrates...so who goes
first?</span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>And
then whose in charge of
the new community
version? Whoever setups
a repo in GitHub first?</span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>The
ideal solution in my
eyes would be to have a
body of people
responsible for driving
the direction of the
project, who represent
the community, and are
responsible for managing
the pull-requests etc.
But that roles currently
being done (when they
are allowed to!) by paid
employees of vTiger...</span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span>From:</span></strong><span><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><span> </span><<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>><span> </span><strong>On
Behalf Of<span> </span></strong>Ing.
Francesco Bianco<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong><span> </span>18
July 2022 13:54<br>
<strong>To:</strong><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong><span> </span>Re:
[Vtigercrm-developers]
no answer and no
commits on<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://code.vtiger.com/"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">code.vtiger.com</a>since
weeks?!</span></div>
</div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">A
good point could be to
create a Community
Contributed version of
Vtiger. Something that
stays true to the
original version but
accepts small
independent
contributions and bug
support.<br>
My biggest fear is that
if Composer support is
not introduced soon, the
software will neither be
upgradeable nor usable
at a professional level.</div>
</div>
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Il
giorno lun 18 lug 2022
alle ore 14:36 Matus
Sopko <<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:sopko@its4you.sk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sopko@its4you.sk</a>> ha scritto:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:10pt">First thanks to Martin ;-)<br>
Second, what we
don't like in Yeti
is the
registration
process:<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://yetiforce.com/en/marketplace/system-registration"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://yetiforce.com/en/marketplace/system-registration</a><br>
<br>
<br>
</span></div>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen</pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Matus</pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">IT-Solutions4You (ITS4You)</pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"> </pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">SLOVAKIA</pre>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dňa
18. 7. 2022 o
13:51 Martin Allen
napísal(a):</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I've
looked at
YetiForce a
couple of times
(not massively
in-depth) and to
be honest if it
had EmailMaker
and PDFMaker
(from Its4You
team) then I'd
be looking at it
as a realistic
alternative –
currently those
two plugins
allow our
end-users so
much additional
functionality
that customers
want, that we
basically
install it in
all our new CRMs
by default now.
So to switch to
something that
doesn't have the
same
functionality is
much harder to
sell to clients.
(even if behind
the scenes its
10x better!)<span> </span></div>
<div
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span>From:</span></strong><span><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com></a><span> </span><strong>On
Behalf Of<span> </span></strong>Rubén
A. Estrada
Orozco<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong><span> </span>15
July 2022
18:33<br>
<strong>To:</strong><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong><span> </span>Re:
[Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://code.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">code.vtiger.com</a><span> </span>since weeks?!</span></div>
</div>
<div
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Have
you guys
considered
this
alternative?: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/commits/developer"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/commits/developer</a></div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">There
have been
DAiLY commits
for a long
time.</div>
<div>
<div
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</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
don't mean to
disrespect
anybody. It's
really an
honest
question. I'm
really
interested in
what you think
about Yeti.</div>
</div>
<div>
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<div
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<div>
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<div
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Fri, Jul 15,
2022 at 11:49
AM Sutharsan J
<<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:ajstharsan@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ajstharsan@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thinks
are going on
here eh?<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/tree/master"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://code.vtiger.com/vtiger/vtigercrm/tree/master</a></div>
</div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Last
commit was 2
months ago?</div>
</div>
<div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Sutharsan
Jeganathan</div>
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Fri, Jul 15,
2022 at 8:10
PM Martin
Allen <<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://github.com/vtiger-crm/vtigercrm"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/vtiger-crm/vtigercrm</a></div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">It
looks a little
bit out of
date
though......<span> </span><span
style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif">😊</span></div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong><span>From:</span></strong><span><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers-bounces@lists.vtigercrm.com</a>><span> </span><strong>On
Behalf Of<span> </span></strong>Ing.
Francesco
Bianco<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong><span> </span>15
July 2022
12:46<br>
<strong>To:</strong><span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">vtigercrm-developers@lists.vtigercrm.com</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong><span> </span>Re:
[Vtigercrm-developers] no answer and no commits on<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://code.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">code.vtiger.com</a><span> </span>since weeks?!</span></div>
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<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Good
point BUT
having an
official place
on GitHub is
an important
placeholder.</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Many
software not
use GitHub as
a primary
source, BUT at
the same time
have a GitHub
presence with
a MIRROR </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">This
is the mirror
of popular
make tool from
SAVANNAH
directory on
GitHub <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://github.com/mirror/make" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://github.com/mirror/make</a></div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I
say ENOUGH
accusing the
VTIGER team,
let's roll up
our sleeves
and create
something
ourselves.
Let's give a
modern touch
to this
project. It is
unforgivable
that even
today CI or
Docker or
simply PHP
Code Sniffer
are not used
to detect
unused
variables. But
we want to
wake up!</div>
</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Il
giorno gio 14
lug 2022 alle
ore 19:00
Rubén A.
Estrada Orozco
<<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:rulotec1@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rulotec1@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Because
they chose to
host their own
GitLab open
source platform.
In my opinion
GitHub would
be better.</div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Saludos</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Rubén</div>
</div>
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</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Thu, Jul 14,
2022 at 10:38
AM Ing.
Francesco
Bianco <<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:info.francescobianco@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">info.francescobianco@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Why
does Vtiger
have NO
official place
on GitHub?</div>
</div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Il
giorno gio 14
lug 2022 alle
ore 17:08
lajeesh k <<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:lajeeshk@gmail.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">lajeeshk@gmail.com</a>>
ha scritto:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">The
whole vtiger
community
should get
nominated for
the Nobel
prize for
partiance. </div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
Regards,<br>
Lajeesh</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Fri, 24 Jun
2022 at 21:05,
Rubén A.
Estrada Orozco
<<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:rulotec1@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rulotec1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">+2
(me and my
dog)</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Saludos</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Rubén</div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Fri, Jun 24,
2022 at 7:10
AM
socialboostdk
<<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:socialboostdk@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">socialboostdk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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Chris</div>
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id="gmail-m_-6938872539913436532v1ydpa4105f1ayiv4596909125v1_x0000_i1026"
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On
Fri, 24 Jun
2022 at 10:59,
Vincenzo Bruno
<<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:v.bruno@vinsoft.it" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">v.bruno@vinsoft.it</a>> wrote:</div>
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<p>UP</p>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Il
14/06/22
13:02, Angelo
Paglialonga ha
scritto:</div>
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style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hi
@Prasad,</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">there
is too much
silence on
vtiger open
source since
weeks:</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">no
replies to any
questions on
newsletter,</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">no
answer on any
issues and
merge request</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">no
merge requests
answered</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">no
news about
vtiger 7.5
release </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">If
you don't have
time just let
someone in
community do
it.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">We
would like to
help you, but
this way it
doesn't work,
it's just
pointless.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Best
Regards</div>
</div>
<div>
<div
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</div>
<div>
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style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dott. Angelo Paglialonga</span></strong></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;vertical-align:top"><strong><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Consulenza vTiger CRM ad alto
ROI.</span></strong><span><br>
<br>
<strong><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Telefono: 338.6077866</span></strong></span></div>
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<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">_______________________________________________</pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"><a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></pre>
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<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Vincenzo Bruno (cell. 328-7252923)</pre>
<pre style="margin:0cm;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif">Coopyleft (<a style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href="http://www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.vinsoft.it/coopyleft</a>)</pre>
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email: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:info.francescobianco@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
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pec: <a
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href="mailto:info.francescobianco@pec.it" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">info.francescobianco@pec.it</a><br>
blog: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://medium.com/@yafb" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank"
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sito: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://italia.codecrm.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://italia.codecrm.org</a></span></div>
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"> social: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://linkedin.com/in/yafb"
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"> mobile:
+39 320
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p.iva:
02360350819<br>
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del 30/06/03
si precisa che
le
informazioni
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non inviarlo a
terzi,
dandocene
gentilmente
comunicazione.<br>
Grazie.</span></div>
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style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Development Manager<br>
Radus28
Software
Solution<br>
<br>
123, Level 2,
Mc Larens
Building<br>
Baudhaloka Mw.<br>
Colombo 04<br>
Sri Lanka<br>
M :
+94773795291<br>
E :<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:sutharsan@radus28.com"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">sutharsan@radus28.com</a><br>
W :<span> </span><a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://www.radus28.com/"
rel="noopener
noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.radus28.com</a></span></div>
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style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>
<a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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style="font-size:7.5pt">Senior Software Engineer, CRM Solution Architect</span><span
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email: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:info.francescobianco@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">info.francescobianco@gmail.com</a></span><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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pec: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="mailto:info.francescobianco@pec.it" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">info.francescobianco@pec.it</a><br>
blog: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
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target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://medium.com/@yafb</a><br>
sito: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://italia.codecrm.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://italia.codecrm.org</a></span><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"> social: <a
style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline"
href="https://linkedin.com/in/yafb"
rel="noopener
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moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://linkedin.com/in/yafb</a></span><span
style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<div
style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Courier New",serif"> mobile:
+39 320
0466987<br>
p.iva:
02360350819<br>
</span><span
style="font-size:12pt"><br>
--<br>
Ai sensi del
D.L. n° 196
del 30/06/03
si precisa che
le
informazioni
contenute<br>
in questo
messaggio sono
riservate e ad
uso esclusivo
del
destinatario.<br>
Qualora il
messaggio Le
fosse
pervenuto per
errore La
preghiamo di
eliminarlo<br>
senza
copiarlo, e di
non inviarlo a
terzi,
dandocene
gentilmente
comunicazione.<br>
Grazie.</span></div>
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href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/"
rel="noopener noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener
noreferrer" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
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<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noopener
noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></div>
</blockquote>
</div>
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<a href="http://www.vtiger.com/" rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.vtiger.com/</a></blockquote>
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