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</pre></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Il giorno ven 22 lug 2022 alle ore 23:31 Mariusz Krzaczkowski | YetiForce S.A. <<a href="mailto:m.krzaczkowski@yetiforce.com">m.krzaczkowski@yetiforce.com</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>Hello,<br>At the request of "<a href="mailto:rulo@simplesistemas.com" target="_blank">Rubén Alberto Estrada Orozco</a>" I am writing this e-mail. This is just my point of view of the current situation.</p>
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<p>I've looked at YetiForce a couple of times (not massively in-depth) and to be honest if it had EmailMaker and PDFMaker (from Its4You team) </p>
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<p>Our system has similar / alternative functionalities, I do not know if they have 100% the same functionalities but fulfill the same functions.</p>
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<p>that we basically install it in all our new CRMs by default now. So to switch to something that doesn't have the same functionality is much harder to sell to clients. (even if behind the scenes its 10x better!)</p>
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<p>We added them to the system because these are the basic mechanisms that the system should have.</p>
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<p>Hmmm, hadn't seen that before – checking out the licence for the software says this :<br>Data used for registration must be true. All provided registration information, including the company's name, can be used by YetiForce Sp. z o.o. (Ltd.) for marketing purposes | (i.e. preparation of statistics, publication on the website).<br>Not sure how I feel about having to provide this information for open-source software.</p>
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<p>Thanks to this, we can better understand which companies / countries / industries use our system.<br>This helps us determine what to expand in the system first, and more.<br>It may be strange for some people, but this is something in return for our work, we give a great system for free and we only want data that is public anyway.<br>There is nothing confidential there.</p>
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<p>My main concern then becomes that we cannot guarantee that the software will work – ONLY if Yetiforce accept the registration, and what happens if the project gets abandoned? Can it be registered without Yetiforce servers??</p>
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<p>Don't worry about this because:<br>- no registration does not block CRM<br>- our server is not obligatory for registration<br>- offline registration can be made when someone does not have Internet on the server<br>- We do not plan to abandon the project, we invest a lot of money / time in it, so why should we abandon it?<br>- currently the company has changed into a joint-stock company and we go public, this is not what the company that wants to abandon the project does<br>- from version 6.2 there is a new simplified license, <a href="https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/blob/developer/licenses/LicenseEN.txt" target="_blank">https://github.com/YetiForceCompany/YetiForceCRM/blob/developer/licenses/LicenseEN.txt</a> <br>- Remember this Open Source together we can do more</p>
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<p>A good point could be to create a Community Contributed version of Vtiger. Something that stays true to the original version but accepts small independent contributions and bug support.</p>
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<p>It will not work, I thought similarly a few years ago. Our system started to be completely different from vtiger.<br>We had to make a lot of changes to make the system more efficient and flexible.<br>What made it different from the original vtiger is a natural evolution.<br>Every developing system does it, otherwise it dies.</p>
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<p>My biggest fear is that if Composer support is not introduced soon, the software will neither be upgradeable nor usable at a professional level.</p>
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<p>It was our first big step, this change was painful because it required updating many libraries.<br>And some of them are not supported / developed / safe anymore, so we had to replace them with newer ones.<br>This is proof that vtiger does not care about Open Source and security.<br>Any serious project uses the centralization of libraries otherwise it is impossible to control them.<br>The development is so fast and there are so many changes in PHP and libraries that it necessitates continuous development of the project.<br>Composer has been around since 2012 and we already have 2022, think about it.</p>
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<p>For me Workflow Designer from Redoo networks is crucial.</p>
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<p>We have a lot of new and improved mechanisms that work similarly or even better than the "Workflow Designer".<br>I do not know what there is that is not with us, it would require a careful comparison.</p>
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<p>This is what is needed – however I am realistic in that either the whole (or majority of) vTiger open-source community needs to migrate to a Community version OR it just becomes another fork.</p>
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<p>There are many forks, vtiger is a fork too.<br>Many of them have died or are barely alive.<br><span style="text-decoration:underline">Without a strong / active community or someone who lives on the project, there is no future.</span></p>
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<p>vTiger themselves clearly don't' want to implement the functionality that we're all asking for, as they have no business need to – ultimately they are selling their own vTiger version that doesn't have/need to e.g. use Composer unless they want it to.</p>
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<p>We used to try to talk to the vtiger team to join forces and create a strong / safe / modern design but they weren't interested, they don't need anybody to help.<br>That's why we made a fork and we don't regret it, it was the best decision.<br>If we had stayed with them we wouldn't have gotten as far as we are now, they were limiting ours every step of the way by creating additions, they didn't want help developing the engine to make it more flexible.</p>
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<p>So where does that leave us? Stuck between a rock and a hard place – no-one will migrate unless everyone else migrates...so who goes first?<br>And then whose in charge of the new community version? Whoever setups a repo in GitHub first?<br>The ideal solution in my eyes would be to have a body of people responsible for driving the direction of the project, who represent the community, and are responsible for managing the pull-requests etc. </p>
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<p>Your decision, you can stay and wait for a better tomorrow or go ahead and take the project into your own hands.</p>
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<p>I know there was an attempt to fork vtiger a few years back. Later it was decided to stay with vtiger open source. Because there were too many similar CRMs already in the market already including Yeti and suite. Anyway the Open Source progress is very slow.</p>
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<p>It all depends on the society and the project manager, choose the best one.<br>It is known that changes are painful at the beginning, you have to look where we will be in a month / year / years, not one day.<br>If we thought so, we would stand still or even move backwards because today the pace of technology development is enormous.<br>I remember vtiger 11 years ago, when I started working, they tried to take care of open source development now it's gone.</p>
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<p>The infrastructure roadmap should be considered on the other side, which is seriously diverted to cloud at the moment. </p>
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<p>Sad but true, and the same for years</p>
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<p>Developing a support system using modern stacks such as MERN or MEAN or using PHP frameworks such as Phalcon or Laravel becomes relatively easier than forking and evolving a monolithic. So we have to consider how to contribute to an open source project efficiently to meet the future.</p>
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<p>Big words, requiring a lot of work, the question of who will do it, there are few willing ...</p>
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<p>I suggest, separating the frontend and backend, similar to the Magento (Now Adobe commerce) PWA storefront, would be the best approach to migrate to modern platforms. Vtiger commercial may derive the benefits from this approach.</p>
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<p>You can see that it does not matter for vtiger, they do not need it, their cloud solutions require dedicated solutions and integrated with their profit model.<br>I agree with you the separation of frontend and backend, only that it requires changes of the entire architecture and no one sees business bones in it.<br>This is expensive with an existing engine and an upgrade would be painful.<br>Business sees it differently, unless you have generous sponsors.</p>
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<div>we could start with a GitHub repository merging fixes for current bugs, so that our businesses don't get too affected from these periods of "silence" from vtiger team.</div>
<div>Who would be comfortable with this?</div>
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<div>Il giorno 18 lug 2022, alle ore 15:43, Martin Allen <<a href="mailto:martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">martin.allen@exe-squared.co.uk</a>> ha scritto:</div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>Like I said previously without the functionality of some key plugins, we wouldn't migrate (unless we found a client willing to pay for us to develop our own version of it in a new CRM!)<span> </span><br><br>vTiger themselves clearly don't' want to implement the functionality that we're all asking for, as they have no business need to – ultimately they are selling their own vTiger version that doesn't have/need to e.g. use Composer unless they want it to.</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>So where does that leave us? Stuck between a rock and a hard place – no-one will migrate unless everyone else migrates...so who goes first?</span></div>
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<div style="margin:0cm;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span>The ideal solution in my eyes would be to have a body of people responsible for driving the direction of the project, who represent the community, and are responsible for managing the pull-requests etc. But that roles currently being done (when they are allowed to!) by paid employees of vTiger...</span></div>
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